A comprehensive guide for DIYers on covering old ceilings instead of demolition.

Published on 06/15/2025Product Idea Validation (Non-SaaS)

Based on the user discussion about tearing down an old ceiling, where people raised significant concerns about mess, labor, and potential asbestos exposure, there's a clear need for a targeted information product. The strong consensus recommending covering the old ceiling with new, thin drywall instead of demolishing it suggests that many DIYers are facing this common renovation challenge without the right knowledge.

Product Suggestion: Comprehensive Online Course - "Old Ceiling Solutions: The DIYer's Safe & Smart Renovation Guide"

This course would cater to homeowners looking to update or repair old ceilings, focusing on safe and efficient methods.

Core Modules:

  1. Ceiling Assessment & Hazard Identification:

    • Identifying types of old ceilings (plaster & lath, early drywall, textured finishes like popcorn or patterned stucco).
    • Critical Safety Module: Asbestos Awareness & Testing. Detailed guidance on identifying potential asbestos-containing materials (ACMs) by age of home and visual cues, the importance of professional testing, how to safely collect samples if permissible locally, and understanding test results. This module would strongly emphasize "when NOT to DIY" and the necessity of licensed abatement if asbestos is confirmed.
    • Other hazards: Lead paint, mold, water damage, structural issues, and pest debris.
  2. Demolition vs. Covering: Making an Informed Decision:

    • In-depth pros and cons of complete demolition (potential for full remediation, access to joists, but high mess, labor, and risk).
    • In-depth pros and cons of covering (significantly less mess, faster, safer if asbestos is present and undisturbed, slight loss of ceiling height).
    • Cost, time, and skill level comparisons.
    • A decision-making framework to help users choose the best method for their specific situation.
  3. Method 1: The Covering Technique - A Step-by-Step Video Tutorial:

    • Materials: Selecting appropriate thin drywall (e.g., 1/4" or 3/8" lightweight), screws, joint compound, tape.
    • Tools: Essential tools (drywall lift, screw gun, taping knives, stud finder) and where to buy/rent.
    • Preparation: Ensuring the old ceiling is secure enough, locating and marking joists.
    • Installation: Techniques for hanging new drywall sheets, working around light fixtures and vents (using electrical box extenders), proper screw patterns.
    • Finishing: Taping, mudding (multiple coats), sanding for a smooth finish, and priming.
  4. Method 2: Safer Demolition Practices (For Asbestos-Negative Ceilings Only):

    • Prerequisite: Confirmation of no asbestos.
    • Containment: Sealing off the work area, using plastic sheeting, and creating negative air pressure if possible.
    • Personal Protective Equipment (PPE): Proper respirators, eye protection, coveralls.
    • Techniques: Methods to minimize dust generation, controlled removal of plaster/lath or old drywall.
    • Debris Management: Safe bagging and legal disposal of construction waste.
  5. Bonus Content & Resources:

    • Downloadable checklists (tools, materials, safety steps).
    • Resource list for asbestos testing labs.
    • Tips for specific textures (e.g., popcorn ceiling removal/covering).
    • Dealing with common issues like uneven joists.

Expected Benefits (for the creator of this information product):

  1. Revenue Generation:

    • Direct Sales: The course could be sold as a premium product (e.g., $79 - $249) due to the high-stakes nature of the problem it solves (safety, cost, effort).
    • Affiliate Marketing: Income from recommending specific tools, safety equipment (respirators, goggles), materials, and asbestos testing kits.
  2. High User Value & Positive Impact:

    • Provides a clear solution to a common, stressful, and potentially dangerous DIY problem.
    • Helps users avoid catastrophic messes and, most importantly, hazardous asbestos exposure.
    • Saves users significant time, physical exertion, and potentially costly mistakes compared to uninformed approaches.
  3. Authority and Brand Building:

    • Establishes the creator as an expert in practical home renovation and DIY safety.
    • Can lead to a loyal audience and opportunities for further courses or content.
  4. Evergreen Content with Strong Demand:

    • The problem of dealing with old ceilings is persistent in older housing stock. The course would have long-term relevance and sales potential.
  5. Scalability:

    • As a digital product, it can serve a large audience without a proportional increase in the creator's time investment once produced.
  6. Reduced DIY Disasters:

    • Contributes positively by educating homeowners, potentially reducing instances of improper asbestos handling and overwhelming project failures.

Origin Reddit Post

r/diy

How much is ripping this ceiling out going to suck? trying to knock it out in a day solo if possible, older house

Posted by u/Imbiamba-bones06/15/2025
ive got a crowbar, shovel, sledgehammer, glasses, mask and contractor bags. Oh and a sawzall.

Top Comments

u/Mewciferrr
Say it ain’t so
u/Wiley_Coyote_2024
Forget those tools... get a sawzall, or a recipricating saw of any brand..then cut along the rafters. It will make less of a mess, but you should still wear a dust mask. Get someone to bag t
u/Itisd
Hold on before your do that... That old stucco ceiling with the patterns on it is very likely to be full of asbestos. Ripping that down indiscriminately would be a bad idea... You would be
u/A_Talking_Shoe
Why take it down?
u/PolarSquirrelBear
Well I mean they already ripped out the other dry wall. If there’s asbestos I would have expected it to be in the mud as well, but not guaranteed.
u/thetiredninja
She left me roses by the stairs
u/svidrod
that’s a days work for one able bodied adult. Sawzall between joists so you can take down sections straight into the wheelbarrow. Shovel up the rest.
u/tjdux
Done lots of square feet of ceiling demo and it comes off easier than you would think since gravity helps. Unfortunately gravity doesn't help scoop it up and haul it off lol. And when you s
u/mikebrooks008
Definitely this! It was way more work, dust, and mess than you expected. I really wish I'd just slapped some 1/4" drywall up - would've saved me a whole weekend (and my back). Covering it is
u/voetre
As another comment said, you really should test for asbestos first! Ours looked similar and it was full of it!
u/okaybogey
What is the style / name of the ceiling the ceiling texture here? I have the same fugly flower texture in my 1966 house.
u/basswooddad
Word to the wise wear a face shield or at least goggles and close your mouth cuz you never know what's going to fall out of that ceiling when you smash it down. Ie: has there ever been rodent
u/trouzy
Putting it back up will suck a lot more
u/trouzy
Putting it back up will suck a lot more
u/dominus_aranearum
A drywall lift is 10× easier when installing a ceiling by yourself.
u/YeaYouGoWriteAReview
Just throwing down a cheap tarp helps a lot. Get a harbor freight tarp and after you pick up the big stuff off it roll the whole tarp up and toss that also. Someone that demos drywall consi
u/kcrab91
I’m here for a good time, not a long time!
u/johnthegreek80
I know
u/epicfail236
Carry me home!
u/replieswaytoolate
I will not go
u/1RudeDude
Why take it out? If it’s plaster then you’re looking at a day of demo, day cleanup and prep, day hanging and taping. I would leave it and repaint
u/Inspi
If there is asbestos, and there probably is by the look of it, knocking down the ceiling will take considerably less time and money than the professional asbestos remediation/cleanup that wil
u/idownvoteanimalpics
Go over it with 1/4 drywall
u/mellofello808
I have only used a drywall jack once, and I wasn't prepared for how bad it was gonna suck.
u/jsm7464
a lot!!
u/PolarSquirrelBear
Well I mean they already ripped out the other dry wall. If there’s asbestos I would have expected it to be in the mud as well, but not guaranteed.
u/slickshot
If it's plaster it's going to be the messiest bullshit you've ever done.
u/Theguyinashland
Yes Sheetrock over it!
u/inkseep1
why rip it out? You can put drywall right over the exiting ceiling. No one will notice the difference in height. You can just extend your light fixture box to the new level. I have torn ou
u/Scorp1979
I've done this solo. If that is lath and plaster. It goes fast if you do it right. If you have a good long handle crow bar with the L side. Same with an axe. Pop the L through the lath and p
u/Itisd
Well yes there is a good chance that had asbestos in it as well.
u/Imbiamba-bones
Hey, it wont let me edit the post but I have a small junk removal business as a side hustle in college, ive just been contracted to rip this out so the owner can remodel which is why i cant j
u/Zhombe
Also a good way to not bath in rockwool mixed with rat shit potentially. Life changing experience in the heat of summer with no AC.
u/Zhombe
Also a good way to not bath in rockwool mixed with rat shit potentially. Life changing experience in the heat of summer with no AC.
u/nickerton
I would sacrifice a quarter inch to not deal with demoing a plaster ceiling
u/Feralmedic
Why tear it out? Fuck all that noise. Just 1/4 drywall and cover it.
u/Scorp1979
I've done this solo. If that is lath and plaster. It goes fast if you do it right. If you have a good long handle crow bar with the L side. Same with an axe. Pop the L through the lath and p
u/DHaas16
Surprises let me know she cares
u/Itisd
Hold on before your do that... That old stucco ceiling with the patterns on it is very likely to be full of asbestos. Ripping that down indiscriminately would be a bad idea... You would be
u/drywallmud
Turn the lights off
u/satyrfeet
These already look like short ceilings based off the fire place. I’d be hesitant to lose any height on that.
u/Feralmedic
Why tear it out? Fuck all that noise. Just 1/4 drywall and cover it.
u/GritsNGreens
Well, that’s one way to find Jesus
u/tanhauser_gates_
Looks like asbestos to me.
u/srgtbear
The internet is going to hate me for this but if it isn't sagging most people just put 1/4 inch drywall over it and your good to go. I've done it to my old philly row home.
u/werewolf4money
It's all gonna suck
u/YESmynameisYes
It'll be like the walls, only generally aimed in a 'down towards you' direction. I think you can do it. Stay hydrated, and tarp off any part of the building you don't want covered in dust.
u/1RudeDude
Why take it out? If it’s plaster then you’re looking at a day of demo, day cleanup and prep, day hanging and taping. I would leave it and repaint
u/Not_Jewels
We just had ours replaced by a contractor. He did demo and clean up day 1 with his son. Body ached so much the next day, he asked if he could come the day after. Even with drop cloths, dust a
u/Jobles4
Work sucks

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