Accelerating Solar Adoption: A Green Energy Investment & Marketing Goldmine
The post highlights the tangible environmental benefits of increased solar power, reinforcing the growing market for renewable energy solutions. This presents significant opportunities for solar panel manufacturers, installers, and companies developing energy storage and smart grid technologies. Marketing efforts can focus on the direct CO2 reduction impact and energy independence, appealing to eco-conscious consumers, businesses aiming for sustainability, and governmental bodies looking for cleaner energy alternatives.
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Increasing solar power could lead to significant cuts in CO2 emissions. Researchers estimated that a 15% increase in U.S. solar power generation could reduce CO2 emissions by 8.54 million met
Posted by u/-Mystica-•07/31/2025
Top Comments
u/grundar
> We're currently at 1.55C above preindustrial.
[The best available data estimates 1.36C](https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/17/2641/2025/), and in particular [2025 is highly likely to
u/Drachasor
Or other freak weather events that they can't handle appear. Or the climate changing so crops are just harder to grow. Tons of impacts.
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is in
u/Otherwise_Piglet_862
When will the researchers start thinking about quarterly profits?!
u/Drachasor
Or other freak weather events that they can't handle appear. Or the climate changing so crops are just harder to grow. Tons of impacts.
u/h2ok1o
Counties around me actively fighting against solar installations cause they look ugly?
u/Hazel-Rah
You're worrying about some parts of solar panels not being recycled, when the competing energy sources are literally lit on fire.
Also
India: https://www.outlookindia.com/national/india-sur
u/piotrmarkovicz
To all the people who say CO2 is good for plants, so is manure.
CO2 and CH4 are literally human excrement.
The fact that CO2 and CH4 levels are rising indicates that the biosphere (pl
u/wally-217
I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is insane
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown: - Fossil Fuels: ~82% - Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
Those numbers are misleading because they suggest that we need 5.5 times as much re
u/Hazel-Rah
You're worrying about some parts of solar panels not being recycled, when the competing energy sources are literally lit on fire.
Also
India: https://www.outlookindia.com/national/india-sur
u/Drachasor
They knew about this decades ago. They could have, with minimum effort, dominated green energy by leveraging the wealth they already had. They could still be major players.
It is a lack
u/ElaineV
If you get it now you can still qualify.
u/grundar
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler
The UK got only [26%](https://www.edens
u/lobonmc
To save the planet we do need a ton of effort putting solar panels isn't enough we should do it but that shouldn't be close to all we do
u/Apprehensive_Tea9856
Carbon capture is needed for the last mile Co2 pollution. The power grid is not the impossible to remove co2 emissions. Aka we need to get that to 100% renewable. And yeah it's stupid expensi
u/SomeCharactersAgain
And having not done so for decades is a criminal offense
u/Alexis_J_M
This is kinda the point of solar power, isn't it?
u/ikaiyoo
No no CO2 is good for people it's healthy that's what the EPA is saying
u/WazWaz
And then save you enough for 2 more of itself in its *minimum* lifetime. And all that is assuming energy prices don't go up.
u/Apprehensive_Tea9856
Carbon capture is needed for the last mile Co2 pollution. The power grid is not the impossible to remove co2 emissions. Aka we need to get that to 100% renewable. And yeah it's stupid expensi
u/Wolfram_And_Hart
The new solar cells are WAY better than they used to be. Way more durable.
u/ImRightImRight
I mean, sure, but if we're serious about CO2 emissions we need to be talking nuclear.
u/ga-co
Well, we’re not doing that. Too many of the people who own our politicians also own the oil and coal in the ground.
u/h2ok1o
Counties around me actively fighting against solar installations cause they look ugly?
u/mikk0384
Excrement is the solid waste - feces. Both carbon dioxide and methane are gasses.
u/ElaineV
Lots of points to solar. I just bought mine and it’ll pay for itself in 7 years. It’s easily a solid financial decision for any home owner in an area with plenty of sun.
u/I_T_Gamer
Conservative friend "Solar is great but the tech isn't there yet".... "I'm sorry, is there some new coal technology that wasn't developed 60 years ago!?" Some people are so spoon fed... D
u/Helphaer
unfortunately google pretty much forces them on you.
u/Hazel-Rah
You're worrying about some parts of solar panels not being recycled, when the competing energy sources are literally lit on fire.
Also
India: https://www.outlookindia.com/national/india-sur
u/mikk0384
Stopping the Gulf stream is very bad for plants.
u/wally-217
I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is insane
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
You certainly are aware that this is all complete nonsense, right?
u/hankmaka
But CO2 emissions got what plants crave
u/Vio94
And has a vendetta against windmills apparently.
u/magnetar_industries
As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown:
- Fossil Fuels: ~82%
- Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
While the use of renewables is growing, our demand for energy is outpacing this growth
u/piotrmarkovicz
To all the people who say CO2 is good for plants, so is manure.
CO2 and CH4 are literally human excrement.
The fact that CO2 and CH4 levels are rising indicates that the biosphere (pl
u/Drachasor
Technically it does make plants grow more, but they're less nutritious, if I remember the research correctly (you basically gain nothing). And tons of other negative effects to farming in ge
u/Helphaer
there's so many scam groups advertised to give solar panels tho. People have difficulty knowing who to trust.
u/ElaineV
If you get it now you can still qualify.
u/Ok-Brother7959
trump cut the federal incentive program for solar.
u/ImRightImRight
I mean, sure, but if we're serious about CO2 emissions we need to be talking nuclear.
u/magnetar_industries
Removing 1 gigaton of CO₂ from the atmosphere using current best carbon capture technologies requires about ~700 terawatt-hours (TWh) of energy. This is ~17% of total US production. Would cos
u/PointlessTrivia
Trump is calling to replace all renewables with fossil fuels, which in modern terms almost always means natural gas.
Fun fact: It's going to cost almost a trillion dollars over the next 5 ye
u/piotrmarkovicz
To all the people who say CO2 is good for plants, so is manure.
CO2 and CH4 are literally human excrement.
The fact that CO2 and CH4 levels are rising indicates that the biosphere (pl
u/magnetar_industries
Sure, in some fantasy inverted reality where we are at 90% renewable vs 10 fossil mix, carbon capture has value in decarbonizing hard-to-electrify sectors like cement, aviation, and agricultu
u/Helphaer
there's so many scam groups advertised to give solar panels tho. People have difficulty knowing who to trust.
u/BlademasterFlash
Plus they might grow a little better, but it’s a net negative if they are a lot more likely to catch on fire
u/cdizzle6
Combine that with carbon capture & carbon removal and it would be a step in the right direction. No idea how big of a step though.
u/mikk0384
As far as I'm aware as a layman, it's simply because the CO2 isn't the limiting factor. Nitrogen or other things like that is what is limiting the plants production of the good stuff.
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is in
u/WhyAreYouAllHere
And the Brawndo?
Why wouldn't we give the plants what they crave?
u/IvorTheEngine
Just looking at the amount of solar currently installed doesn't give you much idea of how it's growing, because the growth is exponential. Have a look at chart like this: https://ourworldinda
u/wally-217
I remember calculating it for gas but it might have been total fossil fuels. I rechecked the few old bills (combi boiler, electric shower) I could find and the heat pump is consistently at le
u/ocava8
Solar panels can be a good alternative for other energy sources, but not for all regions, and then there is a problem of waste. Although some elements of solar panels can be recycled, but, as
u/rdcpro
Or, use Brave and Duck Duck Go. Every time I Google something that is even remotely a product, I see adverts about it for weeks. Unless I search from Brave.
u/Drachasor
Or other freak weather events that they can't handle appear. Or the climate changing so crops are just harder to grow. Tons of impacts.
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u/lobonmc
To save the planet we do need a ton of effort putting solar panels isn't enough we should do it but that shouldn't be close to all we do
u/Uvtha-
Why dominate a new tech when you are already the dominating force in the same sector? Much easier to buy politicians and pundits than shift to a whole new energy paradigm that wouldn't pay o
u/Drachasor
I didn't mean to imply otherwise
u/SomeCharactersAgain
And having not done so for decades is a criminal offense
u/grundar
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler
The UK got only [26%](https://www.edens
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
Really, the math can not ever have been correct, as 100% electricity from gas to run a heat pump still uses less gas than a gas boiler, even at just 40% efficiency of the gas power plant (whi
u/WazWaz
Why people still start from advertisements is beyond me. It's about the worst possible way to choose a supplier of anything - most of the point of advertising is to tell you things that are n
u/rp20
Nothing is stopping local governments from getting rid of solar permitting all together for homes.
That simple change would bring the US in line with Europe and Australia and would dwarf any
u/cdizzle6
Combine that with carbon capture & carbon removal and it would be a step in the right direction. No idea how big of a step though.
u/Built-in-Light
They would never be so wealthy if they valued anything else. Natural selection makes capital accumulation a destructive act.
u/Uvtha-
The effort isn't the issue. The issue is that it cuts into the wealth of some of the most powerful people in the country.
u/Apprehensive_Tea9856
Carbon capture is needed for the last mile Co2 pollution. The power grid is not the impossible to remove co2 emissions. Aka we need to get that to 100% renewable. And yeah it's stupid expensi
u/ga-co
Well, we’re not doing that. Too many of the people who own our politicians also own the oil and coal in the ground.
u/pencock
Co2 is no longer a green house gas remember
u/[deleted]
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u/BlademasterFlash
Plus they might grow a little better, but it’s a net negative if they are a lot more likely to catch on fire
u/Ok-Brother7959
trump cut the federal incentive program for solar.
u/magnetar_industries
Thank you, I take that as a compliment.
I've just been crunching some of the numbers for myself recently, and I thought I'd share, they speak for themselves. As for hope, sure, I have a lot
u/Drachasor
They knew about this decades ago. They could have, with minimum effort, dominated green energy by leveraging the wealth they already had. They could still be major players.
It is a lack
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a heat pump it (similar flat same location) can ta
u/duncandun
Did you know gas isn’t recyclable at all
u/[deleted]
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u/SomeCharactersAgain
And having not done so for decades is a criminal offense
u/rp20
Nothing is stopping local governments from getting rid of solar permitting all together for homes.
That simple change would bring the US in line with Europe and Australia and would dwarf any
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
You certainly are aware that this is all complete nonsense, right?
u/lobonmc
To save the planet we do need a ton of effort putting solar panels isn't enough we should do it but that shouldn't be close to all we do
u/Uvtha-
Two in the hand is worth one in the bush. Risk was a factor. There were indicators that green energy would be an important sector, but what specific tech and what speed were adn still are q
u/[deleted]
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u/dysthal
7+ trillion in oil subsidies probably don't help.
u/ocava8
Solar panels can be a good alternative for other energy sources, but not for all regions, and then there is a problem of waste. Although some elements of solar panels can be recycled, but, as
u/wally-217
Yes heat pumps are more efficient. No arguments here. But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a
u/wbrumfiel
Good luck with that in our current political climate
u/CPTherptyderp
0.126% annual reduction
u/Helphaer
unfortunately google pretty much forces them on you.
u/Helphaer
there's so many scam groups advertised to give solar panels tho. People have difficulty knowing who to trust.
u/ElaineV
If you get it now you can still qualify.
u/ocava8
And what does this have to do with solar panels? And how solar panels are being made? By using only manual labour and green energy, I guess. With zero negative effect on ecology.
u/Uvtha-
Two in the hand is worth one in the bush. Risk was a factor. There were indicators that green energy would be an important sector, but what specific tech and what speed were adn still are q
u/mikk0384
Excrement is the solid waste - feces. Both carbon dioxide and methane are gasses.
u/mmatessa
...because renewables are profitable, but not as profitable as fossil fuels.
u/bobbycorwin123
Epa said co2 is good for plants
Why do these hippies want to hurt plants
u/Built-in-Light
They would never be so wealthy if they valued anything else. Natural selection makes capital accumulation a destructive act.
u/Hazel-Rah
You're worrying about some parts of solar panels not being recycled, when the competing energy sources are literally lit on fire.
Also
India: https://www.outlookindia.com/national/india-sur
u/rp20
Nothing is stopping local governments from getting rid of solar permitting all together for homes.
That simple change would bring the US in line with Europe and Australia and would dwarf any
u/Vio94
And has a vendetta against windmills apparently.
u/grundar
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler
The UK got only [26%](https://www.edens
u/mikk0384
Excrement is the solid waste - feces. Both carbon dioxide and methane are gasses.
u/[deleted]
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u/Helphaer
there's so many scam groups advertised to give solar panels tho. People have difficulty knowing who to trust.
u/GreyWolfWandering
Now we just need to start a global movement to cover all parking lots in either solar or platform/aerial gardens.
u/IvorTheEngine
I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years. China is at 50% EV production already, which is soaking up most battery production and keeping prices high, but when they near 10
u/Helphaer
unfortunately google pretty much forces them on you.
u/grundar
> I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years.
The current battery storage project pipeline indicates [over 1,000GWh in 2027](https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/top-20
u/cdizzle6
Combine that with carbon capture & carbon removal and it would be a step in the right direction. No idea how big of a step though.
u/hankmaka
But CO2 emissions got what plants crave
u/rdcpro
Or, use Brave and Duck Duck Go. Every time I Google something that is even remotely a product, I see adverts about it for weeks. Unless I search from Brave.
u/PointlessTrivia
Trump is calling to replace all renewables with fossil fuels, which in modern terms almost always means natural gas.
Fun fact: It's going to cost almost a trillion dollars over the next 5 ye
u/Ok-Brother7959
trump cut the federal incentive program for solar.
u/SomeCharactersAgain
And having not done so for decades is a criminal offense
u/ocava8
Solar panels can be a good alternative for other energy sources, but not for all regions, and then there is a problem of waste. Although some elements of solar panels can be recycled, but, as
u/shingsging2
It has electrolytes!
u/Riversmooth
Not gonna happen under the orange one
u/[deleted]
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u/ElaineV
Lots of points to solar. I just bought mine and it’ll pay for itself in 7 years. It’s easily a solid financial decision for any home owner in an area with plenty of sun.
u/Riversmooth
Not gonna happen under the orange one
u/Uvtha-
Why dominate a new tech when you are already the dominating force in the same sector? Much easier to buy politicians and pundits than shift to a whole new energy paradigm that wouldn't pay o
u/grundar
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler
The UK got only [26%](https://www.edens
u/WhyAreYouAllHere
And the Brawndo?
Why wouldn't we give the plants what they crave?
u/Alexis_J_M
This is kinda the point of solar power, isn't it?
u/BlademasterFlash
Plus they might grow a little better, but it’s a net negative if they are a lot more likely to catch on fire
u/wally-217
I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is insane
u/magnetar_industries
Thank you, I take that as a compliment.
I've just been crunching some of the numbers for myself recently, and I thought I'd share, they speak for themselves. As for hope, sure, I have a lot
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a heat pump it (similar flat same location) can ta
u/wally-217
Yes heat pumps are more efficient. No arguments here. But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a
u/CPTherptyderp
0.126% annual reduction
u/magnetar_industries
Removing 1 gigaton of CO₂ from the atmosphere using current best carbon capture technologies requires about ~700 terawatt-hours (TWh) of energy. This is ~17% of total US production. Would cos
u/dysthal
7+ trillion in oil subsidies probably don't help.
u/WazWaz
Why people still start from advertisements is beyond me. It's about the worst possible way to choose a supplier of anything - most of the point of advertising is to tell you things that are n
u/CPTherptyderp
0.126% annual reduction
u/TheBosk
Don Trumpote
u/ga-co
Well, we’re not doing that. Too many of the people who own our politicians also own the oil and coal in the ground.
u/cr0ft
That's nice. It's fun to fantasize, I guess. The US is firmly in a death spiral now and embracing all the anti-science and all the most destructive options because of the literally insane lea
u/Riversmooth
Not gonna happen under the orange one
u/Drachasor
Technically it does make plants grow more, but they're less nutritious, if I remember the research correctly (you basically gain nothing). And tons of other negative effects to farming in ge
u/grundar
> We're currently at 1.55C above preindustrial.
[The best available data estimates 1.36C](https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/17/2641/2025/), and in particular [2025 is highly likely to
u/Drachasor
Technically it does make plants grow more, but they're less nutritious, if I remember the research correctly (you basically gain nothing). And tons of other negative effects to farming in ge
u/Vio94
And has a vendetta against windmills apparently.
u/magnetar_industries
Sure, in some fantasy inverted reality where we are at 90% renewable vs 10 fossil mix, carbon capture has value in decarbonizing hard-to-electrify sectors like cement, aviation, and agricultu
u/I_T_Gamer
Conservative friend "Solar is great but the tech isn't there yet".... "I'm sorry, is there some new coal technology that wasn't developed 60 years ago!?" Some people are so spoon fed... D
u/IvorTheEngine
Just looking at the amount of solar currently installed doesn't give you much idea of how it's growing, because the growth is exponential. Have a look at chart like this: https://ourworldinda
u/Highpersonic
Thank you for a glimmer of hope.
Sent from a wind turbine in the north sea
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown: - Fossil Fuels: ~82% - Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
Those numbers are misleading because they suggest that we need 5.5 times as much re
u/grundar
> I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years.
The current battery storage project pipeline indicates [over 1,000GWh in 2027](https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/top-20
u/GreyWolfWandering
Now we just need to start a global movement to cover all parking lots in either solar or platform/aerial gardens.
u/ElaineV
If you get it now you can still qualify.
u/ikaiyoo
No no CO2 is good for people it's healthy that's what the EPA is saying
u/ImRightImRight
I mean, sure, but if we're serious about CO2 emissions we need to be talking nuclear.
u/cr0ft
That's nice. It's fun to fantasize, I guess. The US is firmly in a death spiral now and embracing all the anti-science and all the most destructive options because of the literally insane lea
u/[deleted]
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u/Otherwise_Piglet_862
When will the researchers start thinking about quarterly profits?!
u/magnetar_industries
Thank you, I take that as a compliment.
I've just been crunching some of the numbers for myself recently, and I thought I'd share, they speak for themselves. As for hope, sure, I have a lot
u/Uvtha-
Two in the hand is worth one in the bush. Risk was a factor. There were indicators that green energy would be an important sector, but what specific tech and what speed were adn still are q
u/Riversmooth
Not gonna happen under the orange one
u/Uvtha-
Why dominate a new tech when you are already the dominating force in the same sector? Much easier to buy politicians and pundits than shift to a whole new energy paradigm that wouldn't pay o
u/grundar
> We're currently at 1.55C above preindustrial.
[The best available data estimates 1.36C](https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/17/2641/2025/), and in particular [2025 is highly likely to
u/grundar
> you'll see that total solar generation is doubling about every 4 years, faster that any of the alternatives.
Another interesting perspective on how much faster solar is growing vs. any
u/Vio94
And has a vendetta against windmills apparently.
u/rp20
Nothing is stopping local governments from getting rid of solar permitting all together for homes.
That simple change would bring the US in line with Europe and Australia and would dwarf any
u/grundar
> you'll see that total solar generation is doubling about every 4 years, faster that any of the alternatives.
Another interesting perspective on how much faster solar is growing vs. any
u/ElaineV
Lots of points to solar. I just bought mine and it’ll pay for itself in 7 years. It’s easily a solid financial decision for any home owner in an area with plenty of sun.
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a heat pump it (similar flat same location) can ta
u/Uvtha-
The effort isn't the issue. The issue is that it cuts into the wealth of some of the most powerful people in the country.
u/ocava8
And what does this have to do with solar panels? And how solar panels are being made? By using only manual labour and green energy, I guess. With zero negative effect on ecology.
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown: - Fossil Fuels: ~82% - Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
Those numbers are misleading because they suggest that we need 5.5 times as much re
u/WazWaz
And then save you enough for 2 more of itself in its *minimum* lifetime. And all that is assuming energy prices don't go up.
u/Wolfram_And_Hart
The new solar cells are WAY better than they used to be. Way more durable.
u/I_T_Gamer
Conservative friend "Solar is great but the tech isn't there yet".... "I'm sorry, is there some new coal technology that wasn't developed 60 years ago!?" Some people are so spoon fed... D
u/Apprehensive_Tea9856
Carbon capture is needed for the last mile Co2 pollution. The power grid is not the impossible to remove co2 emissions. Aka we need to get that to 100% renewable. And yeah it's stupid expensi
u/hankmaka
But CO2 emissions got what plants crave
u/grundar
> you'll see that total solar generation is doubling about every 4 years, faster that any of the alternatives.
Another interesting perspective on how much faster solar is growing vs. any
u/[deleted]
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u/Highpersonic
Thank you for a glimmer of hope.
Sent from a wind turbine in the north sea
u/h2ok1o
Counties around me actively fighting against solar installations cause they look ugly?
u/GreyWolfWandering
Now we just need to start a global movement to cover all parking lots in either solar or platform/aerial gardens.
u/Uvtha-
The effort isn't the issue. The issue is that it cuts into the wealth of some of the most powerful people in the country.
u/Drachasor
I didn't mean to imply otherwise
u/Otherwise_Piglet_862
When will the researchers start thinking about quarterly profits?!
u/dysthal
7+ trillion in oil subsidies probably don't help.
u/mikk0384
Excrement is the solid waste - feces. Both carbon dioxide and methane are gasses.
u/h2ok1o
Counties around me actively fighting against solar installations cause they look ugly?
u/ocava8
And what does this have to do with solar panels? And how solar panels are being made? By using only manual labour and green energy, I guess. With zero negative effect on ecology.
u/wbrumfiel
Good luck with that in our current political climate
u/SGAisFlopden
Wow like we didn’t know this before?
u/ImRightImRight
I mean, sure, but if we're serious about CO2 emissions we need to be talking nuclear.
u/mikk0384
As far as I'm aware as a layman, it's simply because the CO2 isn't the limiting factor. Nitrogen or other things like that is what is limiting the plants production of the good stuff.
u/ikaiyoo
No no CO2 is good for people it's healthy that's what the EPA is saying
u/pencock
Co2 is no longer a green house gas remember
u/Drachasor
Or other freak weather events that they can't handle appear. Or the climate changing so crops are just harder to grow. Tons of impacts.
u/mmatessa
...because renewables are profitable, but not as profitable as fossil fuels.
u/rdcpro
Or, use Brave and Duck Duck Go. Every time I Google something that is even remotely a product, I see adverts about it for weeks. Unless I search from Brave.
u/dysthal
7+ trillion in oil subsidies probably don't help.
u/magnetar_industries
As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown:
- Fossil Fuels: ~82%
- Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
While the use of renewables is growing, our demand for energy is outpacing this growth
u/Drachasor
They knew about this decades ago. They could have, with minimum effort, dominated green energy by leveraging the wealth they already had. They could still be major players.
It is a lack
u/shingsging2
It has electrolytes!
u/magnetar_industries
Thank you, I take that as a compliment.
I've just been crunching some of the numbers for myself recently, and I thought I'd share, they speak for themselves. As for hope, sure, I have a lot
u/SGAisFlopden
Wow like we didn’t know this before?
u/WazWaz
And then save you enough for 2 more of itself in its *minimum* lifetime. And all that is assuming energy prices don't go up.
u/SGAisFlopden
Wow like we didn’t know this before?
u/PointlessTrivia
Trump is calling to replace all renewables with fossil fuels, which in modern terms almost always means natural gas.
Fun fact: It's going to cost almost a trillion dollars over the next 5 ye
u/Drachasor
I didn't mean to imply otherwise
u/magnetar_industries
Sure, in some fantasy inverted reality where we are at 90% renewable vs 10 fossil mix, carbon capture has value in decarbonizing hard-to-electrify sectors like cement, aviation, and agricultu
u/cr0ft
That's nice. It's fun to fantasize, I guess. The US is firmly in a death spiral now and embracing all the anti-science and all the most destructive options because of the literally insane lea
u/Helphaer
unfortunately google pretty much forces them on you.
u/IvorTheEngine
I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years. China is at 50% EV production already, which is soaking up most battery production and keeping prices high, but when they near 10
u/IvorTheEngine
I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years. China is at 50% EV production already, which is soaking up most battery production and keeping prices high, but when they near 10
u/logicsol
Honestly? Because they're already in a saturated market and any competent businessman should be salivating at of the idea of dominating a new growth industry - because they can no longer get
u/SGAisFlopden
Wow like we didn’t know this before?
u/WhyAreYouAllHere
And the Brawndo?
Why wouldn't we give the plants what they crave?
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is in
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
Really, the math can not ever have been correct, as 100% electricity from gas to run a heat pump still uses less gas than a gas boiler, even at just 40% efficiency of the gas power plant (whi
u/TheBosk
Don Trumpote
u/ElaineV
Lots of points to solar. I just bought mine and it’ll pay for itself in 7 years. It’s easily a solid financial decision for any home owner in an area with plenty of sun.
u/PointlessTrivia
Trump is calling to replace all renewables with fossil fuels, which in modern terms almost always means natural gas.
Fun fact: It's going to cost almost a trillion dollars over the next 5 ye
u/GreyWolfWandering
Now we just need to start a global movement to cover all parking lots in either solar or platform/aerial gardens.
u/grundar
> We're currently at 1.55C above preindustrial.
[The best available data estimates 1.36C](https://essd.copernicus.org/articles/17/2641/2025/), and in particular [2025 is highly likely to
u/Drachasor
Technically it does make plants grow more, but they're less nutritious, if I remember the research correctly (you basically gain nothing). And tons of other negative effects to farming in ge
u/magnetar_industries
Removing 1 gigaton of CO₂ from the atmosphere using current best carbon capture technologies requires about ~700 terawatt-hours (TWh) of energy. This is ~17% of total US production. Would cos
u/TheBosk
Don Trumpote
u/pencock
Co2 is no longer a green house gas remember
u/Wolfram_And_Hart
The new solar cells are WAY better than they used to be. Way more durable.
u/shingsging2
It has electrolytes!
u/Ok-Brother7959
trump cut the federal incentive program for solar.
u/Built-in-Light
They would never be so wealthy if they valued anything else. Natural selection makes capital accumulation a destructive act.
u/IvorTheEngine
Just looking at the amount of solar currently installed doesn't give you much idea of how it's growing, because the growth is exponential. Have a look at chart like this: https://ourworldinda
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u/lobonmc
To save the planet we do need a ton of effort putting solar panels isn't enough we should do it but that shouldn't be close to all we do
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
Really, the math can not ever have been correct, as 100% electricity from gas to run a heat pump still uses less gas than a gas boiler, even at just 40% efficiency of the gas power plant (whi
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u/CPTherptyderp
0.126% annual reduction
u/magnetar_industries
Removing 1 gigaton of CO₂ from the atmosphere using current best carbon capture technologies requires about ~700 terawatt-hours (TWh) of energy. This is ~17% of total US production. Would cos
u/WazWaz
And then save you enough for 2 more of itself in its *minimum* lifetime. And all that is assuming energy prices don't go up.
u/mikk0384
As far as I'm aware as a layman, it's simply because the CO2 isn't the limiting factor. Nitrogen or other things like that is what is limiting the plants production of the good stuff.
u/BlademasterFlash
Plus they might grow a little better, but it’s a net negative if they are a lot more likely to catch on fire
u/magnetar_industries
Sure, in some fantasy inverted reality where we are at 90% renewable vs 10 fossil mix, carbon capture has value in decarbonizing hard-to-electrify sectors like cement, aviation, and agricultu
u/WazWaz
Why people still start from advertisements is beyond me. It's about the worst possible way to choose a supplier of anything - most of the point of advertising is to tell you things that are n
u/wally-217
I remember calculating it for gas but it might have been total fossil fuels. I rechecked the few old bills (combi boiler, electric shower) I could find and the heat pump is consistently at le
u/Drachasor
They knew about this decades ago. They could have, with minimum effort, dominated green energy by leveraging the wealth they already had. They could still be major players.
It is a lack
u/logicsol
Honestly? Because they're already in a saturated market and any competent businessman should be salivating at of the idea of dominating a new growth industry - because they can no longer get
u/Drachasor
I didn't mean to imply otherwise
u/duncandun
Did you know gas isn’t recyclable at all
u/Uvtha-
Why dominate a new tech when you are already the dominating force in the same sector? Much easier to buy politicians and pundits than shift to a whole new energy paradigm that wouldn't pay o
u/logicsol
Honestly? Because they're already in a saturated market and any competent businessman should be salivating at of the idea of dominating a new growth industry - because they can no longer get
u/ocava8
Solar panels can be a good alternative for other energy sources, but not for all regions, and then there is a problem of waste. Although some elements of solar panels can be recycled, but, as
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
> As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown: - Fossil Fuels: ~82% - Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
Those numbers are misleading because they suggest that we need 5.5 times as much re
u/pencock
Co2 is no longer a green house gas remember
u/WhyAreYouAllHere
And the Brawndo?
Why wouldn't we give the plants what they crave?
u/ga-co
Well, we’re not doing that. Too many of the people who own our politicians also own the oil and coal in the ground.
u/Wolfram_And_Hart
The new solar cells are WAY better than they used to be. Way more durable.
u/hankmaka
But CO2 emissions got what plants crave
u/magnetar_industries
As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown:
- Fossil Fuels: ~82%
- Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
While the use of renewables is growing, our demand for energy is outpacing this growth
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
You certainly are aware that this is all complete nonsense, right?
u/Alexis_J_M
This is kinda the point of solar power, isn't it?
u/mikk0384
Stopping the Gulf stream is very bad for plants.
u/Otherwise_Piglet_862
When will the researchers start thinking about quarterly profits?!
u/rdcpro
Or, use Brave and Duck Duck Go. Every time I Google something that is even remotely a product, I see adverts about it for weeks. Unless I search from Brave.
u/mikk0384
Stopping the Gulf stream is very bad for plants.
u/mmatessa
...because renewables are profitable, but not as profitable as fossil fuels.
u/Ok-Brother7959
trump cut the federal incentive program for solar.
u/duncandun
Did you know gas isn’t recyclable at all
u/Uvtha-
Two in the hand is worth one in the bush. Risk was a factor. There were indicators that green energy would be an important sector, but what specific tech and what speed were adn still are q
u/magnetar_industries
As of 2025 here's our global energy use breakdown:
- Fossil Fuels: ~82%
- Renewables + Nuclear: ~18%
While the use of renewables is growing, our demand for energy is outpacing this growth
u/wally-217
Yes heat pumps are more efficient. No arguments here. But in a modern insulated flat, I could run the heating for 30-60 mins when I get home in winter, then let it cool off over night. With a
u/Highpersonic
Thank you for a glimmer of hope.
Sent from a wind turbine in the north sea
u/piotrmarkovicz
To all the people who say CO2 is good for plants, so is manure.
CO2 and CH4 are literally human excrement.
The fact that CO2 and CH4 levels are rising indicates that the biosphere (pl
u/shingsging2
It has electrolytes!
u/mikk0384
As far as I'm aware as a layman, it's simply because the CO2 isn't the limiting factor. Nitrogen or other things like that is what is limiting the plants production of the good stuff.
u/cr0ft
That's nice. It's fun to fantasize, I guess. The US is firmly in a death spiral now and embracing all the anti-science and all the most destructive options because of the literally insane lea
u/mmatessa
...because renewables are profitable, but not as profitable as fossil fuels.
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u/WazWaz
Why people still start from advertisements is beyond me. It's about the worst possible way to choose a supplier of anything - most of the point of advertising is to tell you things that are n
u/grundar
> you'll see that total solar generation is doubling about every 4 years, faster that any of the alternatives.
Another interesting perspective on how much faster solar is growing vs. any
u/mikk0384
Stopping the Gulf stream is very bad for plants.
u/gSTrS8XRwqIV5AUh4hwI
You certainly are aware that this is all complete nonsense, right?
u/ikaiyoo
No no CO2 is good for people it's healthy that's what the EPA is saying
u/wbrumfiel
Good luck with that in our current political climate
u/Uvtha-
The effort isn't the issue. The issue is that it cuts into the wealth of some of the most powerful people in the country.
u/grundar
> I suspect that battery growth will be similar in a few years.
The current battery storage project pipeline indicates [over 1,000GWh in 2027](https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/top-20
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u/Built-in-Light
They would never be so wealthy if they valued anything else. Natural selection makes capital accumulation a destructive act.
u/wally-217
I know a lot of places do benefit from heat pumps but I did the maths on mine (UK) and it actually uses more gas than my last flat's combi boiler because the power draw over winter is insane
u/ocava8
And what does this have to do with solar panels? And how solar panels are being made? By using only manual labour and green energy, I guess. With zero negative effect on ecology.
u/duncandun
Did you know gas isn’t recyclable at all
u/wbrumfiel
Good luck with that in our current political climate
u/wally-217
I remember calculating it for gas but it might have been total fossil fuels. I rechecked the few old bills (combi boiler, electric shower) I could find and the heat pump is consistently at le
u/Highpersonic
Thank you for a glimmer of hope.
Sent from a wind turbine in the north sea
u/Alexis_J_M
This is kinda the point of solar power, isn't it?
u/I_T_Gamer
Conservative friend "Solar is great but the tech isn't there yet".... "I'm sorry, is there some new coal technology that wasn't developed 60 years ago!?" Some people are so spoon fed... D
u/logicsol
Honestly? Because they're already in a saturated market and any competent businessman should be salivating at of the idea of dominating a new growth industry - because they can no longer get
u/cdizzle6
Combine that with carbon capture & carbon removal and it would be a step in the right direction. No idea how big of a step though.
u/IvorTheEngine
Just looking at the amount of solar currently installed doesn't give you much idea of how it's growing, because the growth is exponential. Have a look at chart like this: https://ourworldinda