AI job displacement: A critical market for new training & services

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92 Million Jobs Gone: Who Will AI Erase First?

Posted by u/upyoars•07/21/2025

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u/Ryboticpsychotic

I'm a writer. Generative AI writing tools were one of the first major AI tools to come out, and I still haven't been replaced because if you ask ChatGPT to write an ad for a heavy duty nail f

u/miscman127

AI is just ok with more complicated problems, most seniors are probably fine for now. It's the long game that is concerning - who replaces the seniors when their time comes to find a new gig

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

Unions are a pretty neat stepping stone to squeezing the cheese I hear.

u/blatantninja

Look at the most at risk jobs. They're already jobs that are hard to hire for due to pay rates

u/Paradoxmoose

I suspect in the long run you're right, but in the short term I expect there to be pain in the transition. I'll be shocked if the stock market isn't higher in 20 years than it is today, but

u/Paradoxmoose

Right, the stock market tends to 'climb the wall of worry', going up until the reason(s) not to has fully materialized and is too far gone to recover. It's a bit like a cartoon where the cha

u/nopointinnames

the same report indicates that 170 million new jobs will be created because of AI, with the jobs expected to see the most growth including farmworkers, delivery drivers, construction workers,

u/compstomp66

Besides spying on us, selling ads and search. What can the current "AI" really do? I see productivity tools not job replacement.

u/Anxious-Depth-7983

Since when are high income earners being taxed?

u/Salt-Detective1337

... When a company implements AI and their staff become more productive so they cut 25% of their employees without increasing pay, who do you think will benefit?

u/NebulousNitrate

People say this but… ChatGPT didn’t even exist 4 years ago. Think about that. We went from no real consumer AI usage to the state of AI as it is today really really quick. Now imagine what it

u/anon36485

This is worldwide. And the report says 171m will be created. Thats a net gain of 80m

u/Msdamgoode

And to think we were just at a point of record low unemployment a few years ago… I’m sure this is all Biden’s fault though, right? :/

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

You will live on a decaying planet, in a virtual world connected to your neurolink all the time. While the obscenely Rich live off-planet in the lap of luxury. The serfdom will continue un

u/volkhavaar

I’ll assume these new jobs are manual labor things that ai cant do?

u/gentlegreengiant

Unfortunately subsequent generations of rich people become more out of touch and while less competent, no less cruel. Lets not forget many of the current gen are trust fund babies themselves.

u/EcloVideos

Exactly. Almost everything people are exposed to is pushed to them by money to increase revenue. Meaning whatever you see has an agenda. The only way to find real and mostly honest informatio

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

Unions are a pretty neat stepping stone to squeezing the cheese I hear.

u/CyndiIsOnReddit

AI erased all my work training AI already (at my level) because now they have these stupid chatbots that people will use for free or even pay to use and they're trained by them now. Training

u/AutomaticDriver5882

Just in time to raid my 401k great

u/woodyus

Do you think this will happen or is this humans being overly optimistic about the technology? We have had the same optimism about self-driving cars for the past 10-15 years and that hasn't h

u/Ediwir

If the bubble bursts, they could very well be the same jobs.

u/El_Dudereno

>The jobs most at risk include cashiers and ticket clerks, administrative assistants, **caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers.** I had no idea Chat GPT was able to clean my house and look

u/Birdperson15

The article claims 170 million new jobs will be created by AI which is basically half the current us population.

u/koreanwizard

I’m sure shareholder value will look really good when they crash the economy. I’m sure Google stock will be stellar and search revenue will be really strong when they crash the economy. If I

u/InfernalDiplomacy

People forget history but it was mass unemployment and wealth distribution which was the primary cause of the French Revolution. It did not turn out well for those in charge back then. I wo

u/Blackfoxar

Well, it learned that humans are stupid and don't reread what comes back.

u/Somalar

Yet people keep saying this isn’t going to be a problem.

u/KentuckyFriedChingon

Not the guy you were debating but I just wanted to say: The stock market is not the economy and is not a measure of how well-off the average American is doing financially. Those two things ar

u/bakochba

Yeah but it probably said it with enough confidence that a CEO was impressed

u/ExZowieAgent

That’s how you know this is all nonsense.

u/Human-Kick-784

It's way worse than that. Sofware engineers are getting slaughtered atm; look at all the big tech companies laying off devs and shuttering graduate programs. I'm a senior sofware engineer an

u/Birdperson15

The article claims 170 million new jobs will be created by AI which is basically half the current us population.

u/one_pound_of_flesh

You are right, and smart people know it. And yet they know it will never happen, so we are instead going to walk right into an economic disaster with no plan on how to stop it. There’s a rea

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

What I’m concerned about is what happens when entry level jobs are eliminated because MBAs think a senior with an LLM can do it better. Then they retire and there’s no one trained with instit

u/ihadamoment

I guess the company that created the AI software and whatever employees they retain to keep it updated, and the people they hire to sell the software, install it and manage it. o.o Those peo

u/Popular_Net477

Correct, however the unions will inevitably have to act as an army. Shouting and begging with signs never got us anywhere and presenting a list of demands from the point of having the peopl

u/El_Dudereno

>The jobs most at risk include cashiers and ticket clerks, administrative assistants, **caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers.** I had no idea Chat GPT was able to clean my house and look

u/TheOtherBookstoreCat

God bless the shareholders. It’s been my life’s work to ensure maximum value for them. That thought is going to comfort me as I’m eating a can of dog food.

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm confused, were you intending to reply to someone else?

u/ahoopervt

Bizarrely …kinda? the article makes no sense. Retail jobs gone, agriculture jobs created, delivery jobs created, housekeeping jobs gone … I see no commonality (or common sense ) in this McKi

u/mixduptransistor

Anthropic, OpenAI, and Microsoft sales executives

u/DanishWeddingCookie

Sell stuff to robots, duh! /s

u/compstomp66

Besides spying on us, selling ads and search. What can the current "AI" really do? I see productivity tools not job replacement.

u/yehiko

I mean and they're saying it's gonna be a problem. Literally word against word

u/NebulousNitrate

People say this but… ChatGPT didn’t even exist 4 years ago. Think about that. We went from no real consumer AI usage to the state of AI as it is today really really quick. Now imagine what it

u/KoolKat5000

That's a known weakness of transformer models. It can't see the tokens so doesn't know their length. Ask it to be shorter.

u/Jota769

You trained your replacement?

u/mixduptransistor

Anthropic, OpenAI, and Microsoft sales executives

u/WaitingForTheClouds

They cannot settle for it being just a tool, it's way too expensive, but they already invested insane amounts of money into it, they desperately need it to replace workforce to justify the co

u/CyndiIsOnReddit

AI erased all my work training AI already (at my level) because now they have these stupid chatbots that people will use for free or even pay to use and they're trained by them now. Training

u/Human-Kick-784

It's way worse than that. Sofware engineers are getting slaughtered atm; look at all the big tech companies laying off devs and shuttering graduate programs. I'm a senior sofware engineer an

u/CyndiIsOnReddit

AI erased all my work training AI already (at my level) because now they have these stupid chatbots that people will use for free or even pay to use and they're trained by them now. Training

u/anuthertw

92 million by 2030. Geeze, thats almost a third the population of the US

u/dorobica

I have payed accounts with claude code, gtp and gemini, they’re all somewhat rubbish. There’s not a day that goes by where their answers don’t contain mistakes while their confidence is throu

u/variaati0

There is one big caveat.... this is just someone's prediction. There is absolutely no guarantee it actually materialises. Given how badly actual "AI replacements and then month or two hire

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm confused, were you intending to reply to someone else?

u/Derpykins666

I asked ChatGPT to help me with some video editing effects, like 'how to do' such n such effect that I was going for. It had some good general ideas, but none of them worked for what I was tr

u/ihadamoment

I guess the company that created the AI software and whatever employees they retain to keep it updated, and the people they hire to sell the software, install it and manage it. o.o Those peo

u/BitchesGetStitches

Their ass. There are a lot of very wealthy people leveraged to the gills on AI, and they're working overtime to keep the hype machine running. All these stories about how X job will be fully

u/mixduptransistor

Anthropic, OpenAI, and Microsoft sales executives

u/Salt-Detective1337

No, I'm saying the reason markets have performed as they have the last 100 years is because worker productivity is funneled directly to those who own the means of production. Companies are ge

u/BitchesGetStitches

Their ass. There are a lot of very wealthy people leveraged to the gills on AI, and they're working overtime to keep the hype machine running. All these stories about how X job will be fully

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

UBI, yes. Unions we can do on our own.

u/Kind_Man_0

I know, it makes me laugh every time I see another article about some billionaire paying for a state of the art bunker. They can all go hide in the bunker with their small team of workers an

u/7fingersDeep

Hopefully AI starts with pulling the names of all the people who post bullshit on LinkedIn - those insufferable assclowns can go and not be missed.

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

We need unions and UBI. That’s it. There’s no other solution. If we don’t have these, they will always be able to threaten our lives and livelihood to get what they want. That’s not a free

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm going to do my best to time a switch to a money market within my 401k. It'll only gain 4% per year, but that's better than dipping 30% and taking 5-10 years to reach the current value ag

u/xXRHUMACROXx

It still massively sucks at interpreting logical concepts in text and doing math out of that. Go ahead and try to make it answer an exam question from high school basic algebra course.

u/Itshot11

Similar here. Asked ChatGPT to make sure quotes were similar on 2 different pdfs with multiple items each to triple check that I didn’t mix anything up. It said 100% match even though prices

u/thedugong

CEO: How complicated can housekeeping be? When I get home, to my ski lodge, hotel room, or mistresses place they are always clean and the beds made!

u/Kind_Fox820

We can do UBI on our own too. Mutual aid. Build systems of support in your communities outside of government and outside of the capitalist system. Pool and share resources.

u/Popular_Net477

We’d need to be completely rid of the current generation of rich people to have that happen. They get a sadistic high watching masses of people suffer.

u/Salt-Detective1337

Yeah that's exactly what I am saying. There won't be a huge wave of unemployment because more people will shift to underemployment, or become discouraged workers. Even if we do see some kin

u/blishness

What will they do when there are no customers?

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

UBI, yes. Unions we can do on our own.

u/koreanwizard

I’m sure shareholder value will look really good when they crash the economy. I’m sure Google stock will be stellar and search revenue will be really strong when they crash the economy. If I

u/Popular_Net477

You think the rich won’t contrive a way to make all of what you’re saying illegal? You think they won’t pay for ways to slander a cause like that? Make you all look like you’re pooling money

u/7fingersDeep

Hopefully AI starts with pulling the names of all the people who post bullshit on LinkedIn - those insufferable assclowns can go and not be missed.

u/DanishWeddingCookie

So the article is saying the jobs likely to be affected include housekeepers and caretakers? Are they predicting full robot automation for that because I don’t think a computer program will b

u/OkTry9715

Yeah this or AI bubble will burst

u/Trevor_GoodchiId

Forbes product managers. 30% of screen for content and popups on top, this is ridiculous. Not even gonna bother.

u/KoolKat5000

Are you retiring in 5-10 years. If not, speak to a financial advisor before you do something crazy and miss out on interest.

u/yehiko

I mean and they're saying it's gonna be a problem. Literally word against word

u/noUsername563

That's so many financial quarters away from happening that they don't care

u/xXRHUMACROXx

It still massively sucks at interpreting logical concepts in text and doing math out of that. Go ahead and try to make it answer an exam question from high school basic algebra course.

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

We need unions and UBI. That’s it. There’s no other solution. If we don’t have these, they will always be able to threaten our lives and livelihood to get what they want. That’s not a free

u/EcloVideos

Exactly. Almost everything people are exposed to is pushed to them by money to increase revenue. Meaning whatever you see has an agenda. The only way to find real and mostly honest informatio

u/blishness

What will they do when there are no customers?

u/carlos_the_dwarf_

If AI is actually going to cause mass unemployment, unions aren’t gonna help much. You can still get laid off from a union job, and union companies can still go under.

u/iclimbnaked

Maybe bc more people will be unemployed and this not hiring those people?

u/iclimbnaked

Maybe bc more people will be unemployed and this not hiring those people?

u/lazrbeam

Someone very close to me is also a senior software engineer. They are afraid of getting laid off and are developing an exit strategy/career pivot to something more AI-resistant. Are you pl

u/Practical-Salad-7887

We need a massive redistribution of wealth. This can't work if 100 people own everything. Why would we accept that? There is an understanding in a society that we all work together as a whole

u/TobaccoAficionado

1. Collective action is great, but people still have to eat. The elites have designed the system in such a way that most people literally would go in the red after a month or two. That is abs

u/KentuckyFriedChingon

No. ChatGPT doesn't "learn" anything. It's a fancy text generator that doesn't have a calculator. It literally cannot count or do math; it just puts words together that it thinks you want to

u/gentlegreengiant

Unfortunately subsequent generations of rich people become more out of touch and while less competent, no less cruel. Lets not forget many of the current gen are trust fund babies themselves.

u/Practical-Salad-7887

We need a massive redistribution of wealth. This can't work if 100 people own everything. Why would we accept that? There is an understanding in a society that we all work together as a whole

u/Anxious-Depth-7983

Since when are high income earners being taxed?

u/compstomp66

Besides spying on us, selling ads and search. What can the current "AI" really do? I see productivity tools not job replacement.

u/stillerz36

I mean I can think of another solution - it rhymes with squeeze the cheese of deduction

u/koreanwizard

I’m sure shareholder value will look really good when they crash the economy. I’m sure Google stock will be stellar and search revenue will be really strong when they crash the economy. If I

u/SuccessfulPlankton73

People need to stop believing these obvious bs marketing statements. Call me when these things show any sort of profit.

u/ihadamoment

I guess the company that created the AI software and whatever employees they retain to keep it updated, and the people they hire to sell the software, install it and manage it. o.o Those peo

u/Popular_Net477

Correct, however the unions will inevitably have to act as an army. Shouting and begging with signs never got us anywhere and presenting a list of demands from the point of having the peopl

u/Human-Kick-784

It's way worse than that. Sofware engineers are getting slaughtered atm; look at all the big tech companies laying off devs and shuttering graduate programs. I'm a senior sofware engineer an

u/Jota769

I asked ChatGPT to take a 200-character line of copy and rewrite it to be 155 characters. Couldn’t do it, it always made it too long. But every time, it told me “here’s your copy, it’s exactl

u/Ryboticpsychotic

"The jobs most at risk include cashiers and ticket clerks, administrative assistants, caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers" By the time we have a robot that can successfully clean a living

u/Ediwir

If the bubble bursts, they could very well be the same jobs.

u/ExiledYak

The ultimatum that a union has is that there's a compromise for their demands, or all of the skilled and experienced employees that are part of said union walk, and therefore, the company emp

u/MaxEhrlich

I’d have to guess a lot of redundant middle management type jobs where they delegate work out to people. Same to those who are delegated to, probably anyone who’s job primarily revolves aroun

u/SuccessfulPlankton73

People need to stop believing these obvious bs marketing statements. Call me when these things show any sort of profit.

u/Otherwise_Fish_5612

So have you considered paid AI models that are actually good?

u/00001000U

Whose ass did they pull these numbers from?

u/Somalar

Yet people keep saying this isn’t going to be a problem.

u/WaitingForTheClouds

They cannot settle for it being just a tool, it's way too expensive, but they already invested insane amounts of money into it, they desperately need it to replace workforce to justify the co

u/xXRHUMACROXx

It still massively sucks at interpreting logical concepts in text and doing math out of that. Go ahead and try to make it answer an exam question from high school basic algebra course.

u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r

AI itself didnt erase anything related to jobs. Greedy executives did. One position surprisingly I'm not seeing AI replace, seems to board positions and stock holders. What, is there an is

u/nslvlv

The only problem with wealth redistribution is that it has never historically happened willingly. Rich people are ever the victims of a populace that "just doesn't work hard enough" But whe

u/anuthertw

I think climate change is going to fuck us over more before we can find out the answer to that question tbh

u/nslvlv

The only problem with wealth redistribution is that it has never historically happened willingly. Rich people are ever the victims of a populace that "just doesn't work hard enough" But whe

u/klingma

Unions won't do anything to stem the tide against automation or AI. Remember when the West Coast Dock Union struck & tried to force an agreement on no automation? They got absolutely thro

u/Paradoxmoose

Are you saying that you believe there won't be a market crash following a wave of unemployment, because productivity of the companies won't go down? I'm still having a difficult time followi

u/AntarcticNord

Corporations aren't using consumer level co-pilot. The jobs being replaced use paid enterprise models that are custom trained on job related data and use prompts a bit more advanced that what

u/MaxEhrlich

I’d have to guess a lot of redundant middle management type jobs where they delegate work out to people. Same to those who are delegated to, probably anyone who’s job primarily revolves aroun

u/darkwoodframe

The answer was shareholders.

u/very_pure_vessel

I have noticed a huge downgrade in chatgpt's function from just a year ago. These companies are clearly cutting corners where they can, I don't think it's a stretch to think they will offer c

u/SingLyricsWithMe

Unregualted corporations from America already sold the middle class to outsourced vendor / contractor agencies that will let people who will always do the job cheaper and without benefits. I'

u/Birdperson15

The article claims 170 million new jobs will be created by AI which is basically half the current us population.

u/nopointinnames

the same report indicates that 170 million new jobs will be created because of AI, with the jobs expected to see the most growth including farmworkers, delivery drivers, construction workers,

u/Popular_Net477

It’ll be a whole lot easier permanently sealing those bunkers than it’d be forcing them open in any way. Serves the would be pharaohs right.

u/69odysseus

It's not necessarily that AI will remove all the jobs, but most will be outsourced and some will be replaced by AI.

u/Practical-Salad-7887

We need a massive redistribution of wealth. This can't work if 100 people own everything. Why would we accept that? There is an understanding in a society that we all work together as a whole

u/nslvlv

The only problem with wealth redistribution is that it has never historically happened willingly. Rich people are ever the victims of a populace that "just doesn't work hard enough" But whe

u/Jota769

I asked ChatGPT to take a 200-character line of copy and rewrite it to be 155 characters. Couldn’t do it, it always made it too long. But every time, it told me “here’s your copy, it’s exactl

u/moot-moot

Hmmm, the article mentions that over 170 million jobs created due to AI, so far more created than lost based on this paper. Granted, the jobs created could be at a different economic level th

u/69odysseus

It's not necessarily that AI will remove all the jobs, but most will be outsourced and some will be replaced by AI.

u/Ryboticpsychotic

I'm a writer. Generative AI writing tools were one of the first major AI tools to come out, and I still haven't been replaced because if you ask ChatGPT to write an ad for a heavy duty nail f

u/ResponsibleHistory53

I asked co-pilot today to help me find the differences in two nearly identical and identically formatted pdfs. It got nearly everything wrong, repeatedly. Not just flagging info that was on b

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

Customer service, gone. Paralegals, gone. Junior programmers, IT workers, gone.. Just for starters Automation on the assembly line, robots as assistants, robots remotely controlled by hu

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

You will live on a decaying planet, in a virtual world connected to your neurolink all the time. While the obscenely Rich live off-planet in the lap of luxury. The serfdom will continue un

u/Popular_Net477

It’ll be a whole lot easier permanently sealing those bunkers than it’d be forcing them open in any way. Serves the would be pharaohs right.

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

Customer service, gone. Paralegals, gone. Junior programmers, IT workers, gone.. Just for starters Automation on the assembly line, robots as assistants, robots remotely controlled by hu

u/TonySu

Over 90% of humans in this thread will have failed to read past the headline of this article. They will completely miss that 1. The reported job creation is greater than job loss. 2. It’s

u/Otherwise_Fish_5612

So have you considered paid AI models that are actually good?

u/moot-moot

Hmmm, the article mentions that over 170 million jobs created due to AI, so far more created than lost based on this paper. Granted, the jobs created could be at a different economic level th

u/Jota769

I asked ChatGPT to take a 200-character line of copy and rewrite it to be 155 characters. Couldn’t do it, it always made it too long. But every time, it told me “here’s your copy, it’s exactl

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

What I’m concerned about is what happens when entry level jobs are eliminated because MBAs think a senior with an LLM can do it better. Then they retire and there’s no one trained with instit

u/El_Dudereno

>The jobs most at risk include cashiers and ticket clerks, administrative assistants, **caretakers, cleaners and housekeepers.** I had no idea Chat GPT was able to clean my house and look

u/InfernalDiplomacy

People forget history but it was mass unemployment and wealth distribution which was the primary cause of the French Revolution. It did not turn out well for those in charge back then. I wo

u/one_pound_of_flesh

You are right, and smart people know it. And yet they know it will never happen, so we are instead going to walk right into an economic disaster with no plan on how to stop it. There’s a rea

u/blatantninja

Look at the most at risk jobs. They're already jobs that are hard to hire for due to pay rates

u/RonaldoNazario

The same article and the report it is reporting on however predicts AI will *create* 170 million jobs though. 92 million feels less bonkers on a global scale

u/Salt-Detective1337

... When a company implements AI and their staff become more productive so they cut 25% of their employees without increasing pay, who do you think will benefit?

u/Paradoxmoose

Are you saying that you believe there won't be a market crash following a wave of unemployment, because productivity of the companies won't go down? I'm still having a difficult time followi

u/blatantninja

Look at the most at risk jobs. They're already jobs that are hard to hire for due to pay rates

u/Ryboticpsychotic

I'm a writer. Generative AI writing tools were one of the first major AI tools to come out, and I still haven't been replaced because if you ask ChatGPT to write an ad for a heavy duty nail f

u/JoeRogansNipple

Hopefully Realtors. Worthless profession IMHO

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

I think unions would be good at facilitating that. It’s just easy for humans to unify around labor because we take pride in creating things of value to society. People who work in the same

u/JoeRogansNipple

Hopefully Realtors. Worthless profession IMHO

u/ankercrank

AI generated hallucinations.

u/Itshot11

Similar here. Asked ChatGPT to make sure quotes were similar on 2 different pdfs with multiple items each to triple check that I didn’t mix anything up. It said 100% match even though prices

u/LordKwik

in 5 years? no fucking way.

u/DanishWeddingCookie

So the article is saying the jobs likely to be affected include housekeepers and caretakers? Are they predicting full robot automation for that because I don’t think a computer program will b

u/variaati0

There is one big caveat.... this is just someone's prediction. There is absolutely no guarantee it actually materialises. Given how badly actual "AI replacements and then month or two hire

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm confused, were you intending to reply to someone else?

u/ExiledYak

The ultimatum that a union has is that there's a compromise for their demands, or all of the skilled and experienced employees that are part of said union walk, and therefore, the company emp

u/carlos_the_dwarf_

If AI is actually going to cause mass unemployment, unions aren’t gonna help much. You can still get laid off from a union job, and union companies can still go under.

u/Salt-Detective1337

No, I'm saying the reason markets have performed as they have the last 100 years is because worker productivity is funneled directly to those who own the means of production. Companies are ge

u/very_pure_vessel

Your info is outdated dude, chatgpt wasn't able to do math at launch but has been able to for a while now.

u/KoolKat5000

Are you retiring in 5-10 years. If not, speak to a financial advisor before you do something crazy and miss out on interest.

u/Salt-Detective1337

... When a company implements AI and their staff become more productive so they cut 25% of their employees without increasing pay, who do you think will benefit?

u/Kind_Man_0

I know, it makes me laugh every time I see another article about some billionaire paying for a state of the art bunker. They can all go hide in the bunker with their small team of workers an

u/darkwoodframe

The answer was shareholders.

u/Popular_Net477

We’d need to be completely rid of the current generation of rich people to have that happen. They get a sadistic high watching masses of people suffer.

u/AutomaticDriver5882

Just in time to raid my 401k great

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm going to do my best to time a switch to a money market within my 401k. It'll only gain 4% per year, but that's better than dipping 30% and taking 5-10 years to reach the current value ag

u/KentuckyFriedChingon

No. ChatGPT doesn't "learn" anything. It's a fancy text generator that doesn't have a calculator. It literally cannot count or do math; it just puts words together that it thinks you want to

u/Paradoxmoose

I suspect in the long run you're right, but in the short term I expect there to be pain in the transition. I'll be shocked if the stock market isn't higher in 20 years than it is today, but

u/Otherwise_Fish_5612

So have you considered paid AI models that are actually good?

u/anuthertw

92 million by 2030. Geeze, thats almost a third the population of the US

u/Popular_Net477

Correct, however the unions will inevitably have to act as an army. Shouting and begging with signs never got us anywhere and presenting a list of demands from the point of having the peopl

u/Ediwir

If the bubble bursts, they could very well be the same jobs.

u/EcloVideos

Exactly. Almost everything people are exposed to is pushed to them by money to increase revenue. Meaning whatever you see has an agenda. The only way to find real and mostly honest informatio

u/noUsername563

That's so many financial quarters away from happening that they don't care

u/Kind_Fox820

I'm not at all disagreeing on the point of unions! I just also like to point out that we don't have to wait for the powers that be to give us UBI. We can build our own support systems complet

u/00001000U

Whose ass did they pull these numbers from?

u/MaxEhrlich

I’d have to guess a lot of redundant middle management type jobs where they delegate work out to people. Same to those who are delegated to, probably anyone who’s job primarily revolves aroun

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

I think unions would be good at facilitating that. It’s just easy for humans to unify around labor because we take pride in creating things of value to society. People who work in the same

u/69odysseus

It's not necessarily that AI will remove all the jobs, but most will be outsourced and some will be replaced by AI.

u/Paradoxmoose

I'm going to do my best to time a switch to a money market within my 401k. It'll only gain 4% per year, but that's better than dipping 30% and taking 5-10 years to reach the current value ag

u/stillerz36

I mean I can think of another solution - it rhymes with squeeze the cheese of deduction

u/Kind_Fox820

We can do UBI on our own too. Mutual aid. Build systems of support in your communities outside of government and outside of the capitalist system. Pool and share resources.

u/Salt-Detective1337

Yeah that's exactly what I am saying. There won't be a huge wave of unemployment because more people will shift to underemployment, or become discouraged workers. Even if we do see some kin

u/ResponsibleHistory53

I asked co-pilot today to help me find the differences in two nearly identical and identically formatted pdfs. It got nearly everything wrong, repeatedly. Not just flagging info that was on b

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

UBI, yes. Unions we can do on our own.

u/DED2099

You are so right, at this point it doesn’t do much to fight the implementation of AI. It’s already permeated through every facet of our lives. We need to start pushing for UBI and start conve

u/7fingersDeep

Hopefully AI starts with pulling the names of all the people who post bullshit on LinkedIn - those insufferable assclowns can go and not be missed.

u/Popular_Net477

It’ll be a whole lot easier permanently sealing those bunkers than it’d be forcing them open in any way. Serves the would be pharaohs right.

u/Jota769

You trained your replacement?

u/GabeDef

Those bunkers will become tombs. They will be buried by locals. No reason to get inside.

u/exneo002

This is your reminder that Forbes is 1) a hollowed out magazine for seo farming 2) incentivized to sell this Pollyanna (for execs) viewpoint so they’ll keep reading the magazine 3) way short

u/KentuckyFriedChingon

Not the guy you were debating but I just wanted to say: The stock market is not the economy and is not a measure of how well-off the average American is doing financially. Those two things ar

u/Popular_Net477

Let em have it, what good are we to them un-alived? How’re they possibly going to win once they’ve pissed enough people off with the passing of their family? Family who were out fighting fo

u/GabeDef

Those bunkers will become tombs. They will be buried by locals. No reason to get inside.

u/TonySu

Over 90% of humans in this thread will have failed to read past the headline of this article. They will completely miss that 1. The reported job creation is greater than job loss. 2. It’s

u/TheOtherBookstoreCat

God bless the shareholders. It’s been my life’s work to ensure maximum value for them. That thought is going to comfort me as I’m eating a can of dog food.

u/Paradoxmoose

Right, the stock market tends to 'climb the wall of worry', going up until the reason(s) not to has fully materialized and is too far gone to recover. It's a bit like a cartoon where the cha

u/Trevor_GoodchiId

Forbes product managers. 30% of screen for content and popups on top, this is ridiculous. Not even gonna bother.

u/ExZowieAgent

That’s how you know this is all nonsense.

u/one_pound_of_flesh

You are right, and smart people know it. And yet they know it will never happen, so we are instead going to walk right into an economic disaster with no plan on how to stop it. There’s a rea

u/stillerz36

I mean I can think of another solution - it rhymes with squeeze the cheese of deduction

u/bakochba

Yeah but it probably said it with enough confidence that a CEO was impressed

u/anuthertw

92 million by 2030. Geeze, thats almost a third the population of the US

u/DanishWeddingCookie

So the article is saying the jobs likely to be affected include housekeepers and caretakers? Are they predicting full robot automation for that because I don’t think a computer program will b

u/KoolKat5000

That's a known weakness of transformer models. It can't see the tokens so doesn't know their length. Ask it to be shorter.

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

We need unions and UBI. That’s it. There’s no other solution. If we don’t have these, they will always be able to threaten our lives and livelihood to get what they want. That’s not a free

u/volkhavaar

I’ll assume these new jobs are manual labor things that ai cant do?

u/Blackfoxar

Well, it learned that humans are stupid and don't reread what comes back.

u/Paradoxmoose

Are you saying that you believe there won't be a market crash following a wave of unemployment, because productivity of the companies won't go down? I'm still having a difficult time followi

u/MrsNoodleMcDoodle

AI isn’t taking people’s jobs, we are in a recession.

u/SingLyricsWithMe

Unregualted corporations from America already sold the middle class to outsourced vendor / contractor agencies that will let people who will always do the job cheaper and without benefits. I'

u/very_pure_vessel

Your info is outdated dude, chatgpt wasn't able to do math at launch but has been able to for a while now.

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

What I’m concerned about is what happens when entry level jobs are eliminated because MBAs think a senior with an LLM can do it better. Then they retire and there’s no one trained with instit

u/DED2099

You are so right, at this point it doesn’t do much to fight the implementation of AI. It’s already permeated through every facet of our lives. We need to start pushing for UBI and start conve

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

I think unions would be good at facilitating that. It’s just easy for humans to unify around labor because we take pride in creating things of value to society. People who work in the same

u/TobaccoAficionado

1. Collective action is great, but people still have to eat. The elites have designed the system in such a way that most people literally would go in the red after a month or two. That is abs

u/MommyLovesPot8toes

As someone who works in this field - THIS. It is sooo overhyped by the people selling AI. They are banking on their customers being too naive to ask questions or understand the answers. But

u/JoeRogansNipple

Hopefully Realtors. Worthless profession IMHO

u/exneo002

This is your reminder that Forbes is 1) a hollowed out magazine for seo farming 2) incentivized to sell this Pollyanna (for execs) viewpoint so they’ll keep reading the magazine 3) way short

u/nopointinnames

the same report indicates that 170 million new jobs will be created because of AI, with the jobs expected to see the most growth including farmworkers, delivery drivers, construction workers,

u/ExiledYak

The ultimatum that a union has is that there's a compromise for their demands, or all of the skilled and experienced employees that are part of said union walk, and therefore, the company emp

u/00001000U

Whose ass did they pull these numbers from?

u/ankercrank

AI generated hallucinations.

u/Salt_Recipe_8015

Ha, my director level job in tech was"replaced by AI" last year!

u/Kind_Man_0

I know, it makes me laugh every time I see another article about some billionaire paying for a state of the art bunker. They can all go hide in the bunker with their small team of workers an

u/ahoopervt

Bizarrely …kinda? the article makes no sense. Retail jobs gone, agriculture jobs created, delivery jobs created, housekeeping jobs gone … I see no commonality (or common sense ) in this McKi

u/OkTry9715

Yeah this or AI bubble will burst

u/Salt-Detective1337

No, I'm saying the reason markets have performed as they have the last 100 years is because worker productivity is funneled directly to those who own the means of production. Companies are ge

u/yehiko

I mean and they're saying it's gonna be a problem. Literally word against word

u/Trevor_GoodchiId

Forbes product managers. 30% of screen for content and popups on top, this is ridiculous. Not even gonna bother.

u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r

AI itself didnt erase anything related to jobs. Greedy executives did. One position surprisingly I'm not seeing AI replace, seems to board positions and stock holders. What, is there an is

u/darkwoodframe

The answer was shareholders.

u/AutomaticDriver5882

Just in time to raid my 401k great

u/KoolKat5000

That's a known weakness of transformer models. It can't see the tokens so doesn't know their length. Ask it to be shorter.

u/KoolKat5000

Are you retiring in 5-10 years. If not, speak to a financial advisor before you do something crazy and miss out on interest.

u/MrsNoodleMcDoodle

AI isn’t taking people’s jobs, we are in a recession.

u/Prior_Coyote_4376

Unions are a pretty neat stepping stone to squeezing the cheese I hear.

u/moot-moot

Hmmm, the article mentions that over 170 million jobs created due to AI, so far more created than lost based on this paper. Granted, the jobs created could be at a different economic level th

u/woodyus

Do you think this will happen or is this humans being overly optimistic about the technology? We have had the same optimism about self-driving cars for the past 10-15 years and that hasn't h

u/blishness

What will they do when there are no customers?

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

Customer service, gone. Paralegals, gone. Junior programmers, IT workers, gone.. Just for starters Automation on the assembly line, robots as assistants, robots remotely controlled by hu

u/WaitingForTheClouds

They cannot settle for it being just a tool, it's way too expensive, but they already invested insane amounts of money into it, they desperately need it to replace workforce to justify the co

u/RonaldoNazario

The same article and the report it is reporting on however predicts AI will *create* 170 million jobs though. 92 million feels less bonkers on a global scale

u/OkTry9715

Yeah this or AI bubble will burst

u/AntarcticNord

Corporations aren't using consumer level co-pilot. The jobs being replaced use paid enterprise models that are custom trained on job related data and use prompts a bit more advanced that what

u/exneo002

This is your reminder that Forbes is 1) a hollowed out magazine for seo farming 2) incentivized to sell this Pollyanna (for execs) viewpoint so they’ll keep reading the magazine 3) way short

u/bakochba

Yeah but it probably said it with enough confidence that a CEO was impressed

u/MrsNoodleMcDoodle

AI isn’t taking people’s jobs, we are in a recession.

u/GabeDef

Those bunkers will become tombs. They will be buried by locals. No reason to get inside.

u/SingLyricsWithMe

Unregualted corporations from America already sold the middle class to outsourced vendor / contractor agencies that will let people who will always do the job cheaper and without benefits. I'

u/klingma

Unions won't do anything to stem the tide against automation or AI. Remember when the West Coast Dock Union struck & tried to force an agreement on no automation? They got absolutely thro

u/MommyLovesPot8toes

As someone who works in this field - THIS. It is sooo overhyped by the people selling AI. They are banking on their customers being too naive to ask questions or understand the answers. But

u/thedugong

CEO: How complicated can housekeeping be? When I get home, to my ski lodge, hotel room, or mistresses place they are always clean and the beds made!

u/NebulousNitrate

People say this but… ChatGPT didn’t even exist 4 years ago. Think about that. We went from no real consumer AI usage to the state of AI as it is today really really quick. Now imagine what it

u/variaati0

There is one big caveat.... this is just someone's prediction. There is absolutely no guarantee it actually materialises. Given how badly actual "AI replacements and then month or two hire

u/ahoopervt

Bizarrely …kinda? the article makes no sense. Retail jobs gone, agriculture jobs created, delivery jobs created, housekeeping jobs gone … I see no commonality (or common sense ) in this McKi

u/anuthertw

I think climate change is going to fuck us over more before we can find out the answer to that question tbh

u/ResponsibleHistory53

I asked co-pilot today to help me find the differences in two nearly identical and identically formatted pdfs. It got nearly everything wrong, repeatedly. Not just flagging info that was on b

u/Jolly-Roger-HoHoHo

You will live on a decaying planet, in a virtual world connected to your neurolink all the time. While the obscenely Rich live off-planet in the lap of luxury. The serfdom will continue un

u/carlos_the_dwarf_

If AI is actually going to cause mass unemployment, unions aren’t gonna help much. You can still get laid off from a union job, and union companies can still go under.

u/InfernalDiplomacy

People forget history but it was mass unemployment and wealth distribution which was the primary cause of the French Revolution. It did not turn out well for those in charge back then. I wo

u/Itshot11

Similar here. Asked ChatGPT to make sure quotes were similar on 2 different pdfs with multiple items each to triple check that I didn’t mix anything up. It said 100% match even though prices

u/P0pu1arBr0ws3r

AI itself didnt erase anything related to jobs. Greedy executives did. One position surprisingly I'm not seeing AI replace, seems to board positions and stock holders. What, is there an is

u/TobaccoAficionado

1. Collective action is great, but people still have to eat. The elites have designed the system in such a way that most people literally would go in the red after a month or two. That is abs

u/ankercrank

AI generated hallucinations.

u/volkhavaar

I’ll assume these new jobs are manual labor things that ai cant do?

u/BitchesGetStitches

Their ass. There are a lot of very wealthy people leveraged to the gills on AI, and they're working overtime to keep the hype machine running. All these stories about how X job will be fully

u/Blackfoxar

Well, it learned that humans are stupid and don't reread what comes back.

u/DanishWeddingCookie

Sell stuff to robots, duh! /s

u/RonaldoNazario

The same article and the report it is reporting on however predicts AI will *create* 170 million jobs though. 92 million feels less bonkers on a global scale

u/thedugong

CEO: How complicated can housekeeping be? When I get home, to my ski lodge, hotel room, or mistresses place they are always clean and the beds made!

u/very_pure_vessel

Your info is outdated dude, chatgpt wasn't able to do math at launch but has been able to for a while now.

u/KentuckyFriedChingon

No. ChatGPT doesn't "learn" anything. It's a fancy text generator that doesn't have a calculator. It literally cannot count or do math; it just puts words together that it thinks you want to

u/Salt_Recipe_8015

Ha, my director level job in tech was"replaced by AI" last year!

u/gentlegreengiant

Unfortunately subsequent generations of rich people become more out of touch and while less competent, no less cruel. Lets not forget many of the current gen are trust fund babies themselves.

u/Salt_Recipe_8015

Ha, my director level job in tech was"replaced by AI" last year!

u/DanishWeddingCookie

Sell stuff to robots, duh! /s

u/woodyus

Do you think this will happen or is this humans being overly optimistic about the technology? We have had the same optimism about self-driving cars for the past 10-15 years and that hasn't h

u/Somalar

Yet people keep saying this isn’t going to be a problem.

u/Jota769

You trained your replacement?

u/klingma

Unions won't do anything to stem the tide against automation or AI. Remember when the West Coast Dock Union struck & tried to force an agreement on no automation? They got absolutely thro

u/noUsername563

That's so many financial quarters away from happening that they don't care

u/Kind_Fox820

We can do UBI on our own too. Mutual aid. Build systems of support in your communities outside of government and outside of the capitalist system. Pool and share resources.

u/Popular_Net477

We’d need to be completely rid of the current generation of rich people to have that happen. They get a sadistic high watching masses of people suffer.

u/SuccessfulPlankton73

People need to stop believing these obvious bs marketing statements. Call me when these things show any sort of profit.

u/TonySu

Over 90% of humans in this thread will have failed to read past the headline of this article. They will completely miss that 1. The reported job creation is greater than job loss. 2. It’s

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