AI-Powered Legal Motion & Document Automation for Litigators
Legal professionals, especially litigators, face immense pressure, tight deadlines, and complex document creation (e.g., Motion for Summary Judgment - MSJ). The user's experience of 'crashed out' due to a 1-week deadline for a complicated MSJ highlights a significant pain point in legal practice: the high-stakes, time-consuming, and error-prone nature of drafting critical legal documents. Automating parts of this process can save time, reduce stress, and improve accuracy.
How:
- Intelligent Drafting Assistant: Users input case facts, legal arguments, and desired motion type (e.g., MSJ, Motion to Dismiss). The SaaS leverages AI/NLP to suggest relevant legal phrases, structure the document according to court rules, and generate initial drafts.
- Exhibit & Citation Management: Automated tools for managing exhibits, generating tables of authorities, and ensuring accurate cross-referencing within the document.
- Jurisdiction-Specific Templates & Compliance: Offer customizable templates tailored to specific federal and state court rules, automatically flagging potential compliance issues.
- Deadline & Workflow Management: Integrate with court dockets to track filing deadlines and provide a structured workflow for drafting, review, and filing tasks. This tool wouldn't replace a lawyer but would significantly augment their productivity.
Expected Revenue: Subscription model for law firms or individual attorneys. Tiers could be based on user count, document volume, or advanced features like AI legal research integration. Potential for $100-$500/month per user or per small firm, given the high value of legal professional time.
Origin Reddit Post
r/lawyertalk
Crashed out over an MSJ today
Posted by u/greenie4422•07/29/2025
Was given exactly 1 week to write a MSJ in a very complicated case (had to be filed today). I dropped everything in my personal life to accommodate this on top of my other cases, including wo
Top Comments
u/Motor_Succotash_4276
Sure, you can be insulted, I’m just saying it’s not surprising that lawyers in practice for years are like, meh. Once it’s happened 50 times you barely even notice lol.
u/ub3rm3nsch
Yes, but did you consider how rude it was for the partner not to tuck OP in before bed and to not give OP a cookie and their sippie cup?
u/BossyNRighttt
Any tips on entry level in-house opportunities?
u/rinky79
The last brief I wrote was about 10 pages in 3 hours, including research.
u/LukeKornet
Bro I have been practicing for a year now and haven’t gotten a “Thx” yet.
u/DEATHCATSmeow
It is 4:30 AM in my neck of the woods and I just got into my bed after frantically finishing a brief that is due by end of business hours today. I feel your pain.
u/QueBestia19
At my first job (around 2012) I spent 5 weeks driving around three counties tracking down victims of a perv foster parent based on almost no information and got screamed at daily for any fail
u/JMLobo83
Sounds great, are you salaried?
u/dex721
Good. You learned this lesson early as opposed to finding out after you'd given up vacations, hobbies, having kids, etc. for a job that doesn't care.
Give your job what is necessary but rem
u/invaluablekiwi
Right? People always talk about how your average lawyer makes for a bad business owner and a worse manager, but the response to venting about feeling underappreciated is "tHaT's WhAt ThE mOnE
u/jerryatrix27
So you gave the partner your draft the morning it was due and you omitted “several” arguments, which you then had to add “in a FRENZY” to not blow the deadline? And all he said was thanks? Yo
u/DangerousAnalysis967
One week is super unfair for a MSJ. Great job getting it done. Your partner doesn’t owe you a party for getting it done. But he/she owed you a bit more than a thank you.
u/mercmcl
You should teach. You’re amazing.
u/Ok_Cricket_2520
It’s not the number of pages, but the analysis he had to do to get it down to, as you say, 4 pages a day. 🙄
u/musteatbrainz
You either bill those hours now or later.
u/Toby_Keiths_Jorts
Perfect 😂
u/DangerousAnalysis967
One week is super unfair for a MSJ. Great job getting it done. Your partner doesn’t owe you a party for getting it done. But he/she owed you a bit more than a thank you.
u/JMLobo83
Sounds great, are you salaried?
u/corpus4us
Also did they not check in with partner on Friday about the outline/structure? Is OP a shy first year?
u/MandamusMan
He said thanks and is paying you a salary. What exactly do you want him to do? Hand you a trophy and tell you that it’s the best motion he’s ever seen?
I think your expectations might be a h
u/Sin-Enthusiast
You did God’s work under employ of the devil.
I hope you’re well & standing tall.
u/JiveTurkey927
Leave it to a group of lawyers to be unable to comprehend why someone might want to be shown appreciation for the work they do. It’s absurd.
ThaT’s WhAT THE mOnEY IS FOr.
“I fail to see ho
u/Ok_Cricket_2520
It’s not the number of pages, but the analysis he had to do to get it down to, as you say, 4 pages a day. 🙄
u/MyrnaMyrna
Why would anyone want to do this for a living?
u/DEATHCATSmeow
I laughed so hard at the “we were ruled against on all counts” conclusion to your story because I live that shit. Hours of blood sweat and tears on motions and briefs with my boss frantically
u/bagelstar
Calm the fuck down
u/NervousAd7700
Sounds like this is a pattern. You don’t have to accept it, and I recommend you don’t. You have at least three options, maybe more:
1. Talk to the partner about his style and see if you can
u/NewLawGuy24
You did well. F that partner.
If you are proud of the work, client first.
Find a place that appreciates you
u/Low-Arm-9230
Start finding self-satisfaction in your work that is well done. Leaving that to others is an unrealistic expectation that you will be grossly disappointed by, on a regular basis.
u/rinky79
Criminal law moves fast. If I spent a week on 10 pages I'd get fired. We worry less about typos and more about getting the argument on the page.
u/Martin_Jay
Right. I’m a litigator. I’ve written briefs for the last 17 years. This isn’t a particularly demanding assignment, especially given the fact that the partner appears to have told them what ar
u/Keyserchief
Frankly just amateurish not to get forehead kisses in writing when you take the job
u/Virgante
lol, I felt that so much.
u/EastTXJosh
Sorry to hear that. I know things come up, but as a defense lawyer, I start drafting a skeleton MSJ as soon as a client is served. This is my jumping off point and helps me develop a trial pl
u/MauryBallsteinLook
Found the guy who doesn't litigate
u/DEATHCATSmeow
It is 4:30 AM in my neck of the woods and I just got into my bed after frantically finishing a brief that is due by end of business hours today. I feel your pain.
u/Mission-Library-7499
And thus you learned that the partners are idiots who apparently have no good idea of what they're doing. (Unless all that they're doing is just padding the bill.)
u/edenburning
This is why the legal profession is known for not knowing how to manage...
u/MorningMavis
Not if you don't file an MSJ?
u/Weird-Salamander-349
Just to validate, I’d literally rather receive radio fucking silence or even “Thanks” than “thx.” Oh, I’m not even worth an extra three letters? WELL FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON
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u/Artistic_Finance_868
Excellent work. But you know lawyers don’t appreciate other lawyers
u/9bytheCrows
Did the same a few months ago for an argument brief, except it was two partners sharing a client, and I spent 7 billable hours in my office on a Sunday on my birthday after I found the edits
u/MorningMavis
Most cases settle, not all need briefing- my clients won't bite. Must depend on the area of law.
u/HistorianPerfect8124
I just inherited 4 cases from a fucking queen of an attorney who just retired who did just that. Her MSJ memos are insanely beautiful. Sad I never got to work with her because clearly she had
u/W3bneck
Yet.
u/cm4tabl9
This right here. Just to add a little bit, I've found it helpful to not frame the ask as helping me, but as helping me be a better help to them.
u/hankhillforprez
Take what that poster said as great, broad advice for how to proceed through any lawsuit. You don’t literally need to start a skeleton MSJ on day 1 like they do, but for every depo, every dis
u/Palamedestarot
OP didn't say that the motion was in addition to all of his other tasks. If the MSJ was the only task, then you've got a point.
u/cm4tabl9
This right here. Just to add a little bit, I've found it helpful to not frame the ask as helping me, but as helping me be a better help to them.
u/ConLawouisiana
This is crazy helpful advice. I hope you'd consider mentoring in some aspect. As a former teacher, thank you!
u/bagelstar
Calm the fuck down
u/Toby_Keiths_Jorts
Perfect 😂
u/platinum_pangolin
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u/greenie4422
Hahaha I’m glad you feel my pain! Idk why it bothered me even more than radio silence.
I know a lot of people are telling me to never expect a true thank you, but I don’t think our jobs are
u/Subject_Disaster_798
That I do. But, developing documents along the way, which at some point would only take a "couple of hours" to "polish off" all documents necessary to bring or defend an MSJ? Maybe if I pract
u/aeonteal
🙄
u/WinterHost
damn couldn’t just empathize with OP huh? y’all really making me cringe that I’m in the same profession as you 😩
u/bbsnek731
This comment is something that everyone on this thread should read. Take my upvote.
Expanding a little on this comment to say that the legal industry is hard enough without perpetuating the
u/PBO123567
I’m a partner and have been doing this for 20 years. I still sometimes pull long hours on MSJs that win but never get recognized. We do it for the clients.
u/Denimchikn1976
Perfect post lol
u/MorningMavis
Do clients pay for that time if you don't end up filing it? How do you bill for that?
u/MorningMavis
Most cases settle, not all need briefing- my clients won't bite. Must depend on the area of law.
u/Artistic_Finance_868
Excellent work. But you know lawyers don’t appreciate other lawyers
u/Palamedestarot
Who doesn't file a MSJ on at least one issue?
u/_BindersFullOfWomen_
FYI - just because she’s retired doesn’t mean you can’t learn from her. Tell her you got assigned some of her cases and would love to talk to her about them over coffee so you can get fully c
u/ex_cathedra_
This is not healthy.
u/EastTXJosh
Thank you for the kind words. I’m not sure I’m qualified to be anyone’s mentor. This is a practice I picked up working as a paralegal for a big shot litigator prior to law school.
u/AnimatedMeat
On the bright side, you didn't have to gather affidavits in support of the additional arguments the partner wanted, as far as you know.
u/thepuncroc
Sounds like insurance defense.
Have you considered not working for the devil?
u/Subject_Disaster_798
You all continue to remind me the relief I should feel every day, not having a boss directing my choice of motions and drafting of pleadings.
u/SpecialsSchedule
Jesus people here are miserable. Of course it sucks to be told “thx” to hours and hours of hard work. Like, we’re not robots. Validation and a good work environment is what keeps us coming ba
u/EastTXJosh
Sorry to hear that. I know things come up, but as a defense lawyer, I start drafting a skeleton MSJ as soon as a client is served. This is my jumping off point and helps me develop a trial pl
u/SicilianUSGuy
Is your thank you in a good pay check? If not, say good bye.
u/invaluablekiwi
Right? People always talk about how your average lawyer makes for a bad business owner and a worse manager, but the response to venting about feeling underappreciated is "tHaT's WhAt ThE mOnE
u/MfrBVa
Day ain’t over yet.
u/Severe_Lock8497
Unless you had no involvement in the case before, a nine exhibit brief that is 22 pages long typically is not a Herculean task. A rough rule of thumb is 1 to 1 1/2 hours per page. It is har
u/AnimatedMeat
On the bright side, you didn't have to gather affidavits in support of the additional arguments the partner wanted, as far as you know.
u/DEATHCATSmeow
Dear Lord, what a slap in the face
u/platinum_pangolin
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u/itsleakingeverywhere
This is the way. This serves as my outline for discovery, depositions, trial, and everything else. And when it comes time to MSJ, you are laser focused while the plaintiff may be all over the
u/MyrnaMyrna
Why would anyone want to do this for a living?
u/Motor_Succotash_4276
It’s not that we (other attorneys who have probably practiced longer than OP) don’t empathize, it’s just this is reality.
u/09212865
Ugh I would hate to encounter that many pages with so little effort behind them. If the research is worth that little of your time you should be able to say it in less pages
u/HistorianPerfect8124
lol. Yep. I can count on one hand the number of MSJs I haven’t crashed out over
u/Low-Arm-9230
Start finding self-satisfaction in your work that is well done. Leaving that to others is an unrealistic expectation that you will be grossly disappointed by, on a regular basis.
u/musteatbrainz
A week to write an MSJ is entirely avoidable.
u/Denimchikn1976
Perfect post lol
u/DEATHCATSmeow
Dear Lord, what a slap in the face
u/WinterHost
I was thinking the same. Like damn y’all are assholes. Being a lawyer does not have to mean being like …that.
u/W3bneck
Yet.
u/jensational78
THIS is the way. Organize your claims, defense, and then lock in for discovery.
u/lilylister
I think they do it on purpose lol. That’s an awesome effort. If only you could think of something similar for the partner next time they have a massive and unlikely win (I mean don’t, you d
u/ImgursHowUnfortunate
The real treasure was the billables they farmed along the way.
u/Sea-Relative2130
Perfect riposte!
u/DEATHCATSmeow
I wish I was organized enough to do that…
u/Martin_Jay
This. 1000%. OP wrote a 22-page motion over 7 days. They had to write less than 4 pages per day. This is not a particularly demanding assignment. Which was their literal job, for which they g
u/LukeKornet
Bro I have been practicing for a year now and haven’t gotten a “Thx” yet.
u/ThrowRAomewhere_8603
I do something similar, but it starts off as the initial case evaluation and risk assessment. It includes a detailed breakdown of the facts, with citations to potential exhibits, and a detail
u/BrassBondsBSG
OP- get a different job. Your bosses don't give a shit about you. Find a place that does or, at the least, pay you your worth.
u/Gilmoregirlin
As a Gen X lawyer (partner) I will say that I work hard on giving kudos to the younger lawyers when they do a good job on something, but it's because I have learned that younger generations n
u/MfrBVa
Day ain’t over yet.
u/Pumapak_Round
The question is did you win the msj?
u/ub3rm3nsch
Yes, but did you consider how rude it was for the partner not to tuck OP in before bed and to not give OP a cookie and their sippie cup?
u/Mission-Library-7499
And thus you learned that the partners are idiots who apparently have no good idea of what they're doing. (Unless all that they're doing is just padding the bill.)
u/MorningMavis
Do clients pay for that time if you don't end up filing it? How do you bill for that?
u/TooooMuchTuna
Not to mention OP might be making like 70k and have 200k in loans. Like, what money? Most of us are not in biglaw
u/greenie4422
Hahaha I meant more like even spelling out the word “thanks” but I love the fantasy.
The man works 4 hours a day and then slaps his name on my blood, sweat, and tears lol. But I do apprecia
u/_BindersFullOfWomen_
At least the judge didn’t reply with a thumbs down emoji.
u/JiveTurkey927
Leave it to a group of lawyers to be unable to comprehend why someone might want to be shown appreciation for the work they do. It’s absurd.
ThaT’s WhAT THE mOnEY IS FOr.
“I fail to see ho
u/TooooMuchTuna
Not to mention OP might be making like 70k and have 200k in loans. Like, what money? Most of us are not in biglaw
u/EastTXJosh
Thank you for the kind words. I’m not sure I’m qualified to be anyone’s mentor. This is a practice I picked up working as a paralegal for a big shot litigator prior to law school.
u/SpecialsSchedule
Okay. And OP can be insulted by the reality lol it’s not a bad thing to expect better from your boss
u/johnnygalt1776
Welcome to the world of litigation—insufferable and ungrateful gunners, twats, and raging dickheads with zero management skills.
u/invaluablekiwi
Right? People always talk about how your average lawyer makes for a bad business owner and a worse manager, but the response to venting about feeling underappreciated is "tHaT's WhAt ThE mOnE
u/draperf
What an unsupportive response.
u/musteatbrainz
Even if settles, it forms the backbone of the mediation brief to negotiate the value of the case.
u/PerceiveEternal
It’s easy for Partners to not realize how much effort associates put into their work (it doesn’t make sense, I know, but it’s true) especially if you’re competent enough that your work is ess
u/BrassBondsBSG
OP- get a different job. Your bosses don't give a shit about you. Find a place that does or, at the least, pay you your worth.
u/Martin_Jay
This. 1000%. OP wrote a 22-page motion over 7 days. They had to write less than 4 pages per day. This is not a particularly demanding assignment. Which was their literal job, for which they g
u/Keyserchief
Frankly just amateurish not to get forehead kisses in writing when you take the job
u/DEATHCATSmeow
I wish I was organized enough to do that…
u/MorningMavis
Attorneys who can resolve or dismiss cases before or through discovery? At least half of my cases never make it to SJ stage?
u/Severe-Freedom-6560
Are you me?? I literally had the same experience this week. My brain is fried, I have no idea how I got that done. My only solace is that it's a joint MSJ in federal court, and plaintiff only
u/HistorianPerfect8124
lol. Yep. I can count on one hand the number of MSJs I haven’t crashed out over
u/musteatbrainz
You either bill those hours now or later.
u/Weird-Salamander-349
Just to validate, I’d literally rather receive radio fucking silence or even “Thanks” than “thx.” Oh, I’m not even worth an extra three letters? WELL FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON
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u/mercmcl
You should teach. You’re amazing.
u/Subject_Disaster_798
You all continue to remind me the relief I should feel every day, not having a boss directing my choice of motions and drafting of pleadings.
u/DEATHCATSmeow
I laughed so hard at the “we were ruled against on all counts” conclusion to your story because I live that shit. Hours of blood sweat and tears on motions and briefs with my boss frantically
u/Martin_Jay
Right. I’m a litigator. I’ve written briefs for the last 17 years. This isn’t a particularly demanding assignment, especially given the fact that the partner appears to have told them what ar
u/DeweyCheatemHowe
You could easily bill those hours as outling litigation/discovery plan, researching elements of plaintiffs claims, and preparing initial evaluation of a file. Just because it's all part of a
u/musteatbrainz
A week to write an MSJ is entirely avoidable.
u/NervousAd7700
Sounds like this is a pattern. You don’t have to accept it, and I recommend you don’t. You have at least three options, maybe more:
1. Talk to the partner about his style and see if you can
u/EastTXJosh
Sorry to hear that. I know things come up, but as a defense lawyer, I start drafting a skeleton MSJ as soon as a client is served. This is my jumping off point and helps me develop a trial pl
u/hankhillforprez
And it only had 9 exhibits. Now, to be fair, those could have been very lengthy deposition transcripts, or complex document references, but… this just really doesn’t seem like a very difficul
u/ImgursHowUnfortunate
The real treasure was the billables they farmed along the way.
u/musteatbrainz
MF. Honestly very few other professions involve such futile stress and thanklessness.
u/never_more-nevermore
Exactly
u/thepuncroc
Sounds like insurance defense.
Have you considered not working for the devil?
u/never_more-nevermore
Exactly
u/MorningMavis
Don't generally mediate my cases before the close of discovery. I think we just practice in very different areas of law. Trust, I'm not criticizing, I'm looking for ways to capture more and m
u/Iamsomeoneelse2
Solo here - get over it or you’ll always be depressed and co-dependent.
u/MauryBallsteinLook
Found the guy who doesn't litigate
u/musteatbrainz
MF. Honestly very few other professions involve such futile stress and thanklessness.
u/PerceiveEternal
It’s easy for Partners to not realize how much effort associates put into their work (it doesn’t make sense, I know, but it’s true) especially if you’re competent enough that your work is ess
u/WinterHost
I was thinking the same. Like damn y’all are assholes. Being a lawyer does not have to mean being like …that.
u/bbsnek731
This comment is something that everyone on this thread should read. Take my upvote.
Expanding a little on this comment to say that the legal industry is hard enough without perpetuating the
u/Live_Alarm_8052
I would bill something like that as plan and prepare case analysis and strategy.
u/greenie4422
Fuck I wish I was as good as you
u/nycgirl1993
I dont usually expect a thank you its my job lol. I just ask for decent feedback so i can get it done. Ive crashed out over oppositions to MSJs before. My boss expects me to do them well in a
u/platinum_pangolin
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u/HistorianPerfect8124
I just inherited 4 cases from a fucking queen of an attorney who just retired who did just that. Her MSJ memos are insanely beautiful. Sad I never got to work with her because clearly she had
u/greenie4422
No, we discussed all the arguments last Monday when he assigned it to me. I work on it all last week, I get him a finalized draft before 9 AM on Friday morning. He gives 2 sentences of feedb
u/musteatbrainz
He says he uses it as a trial plan - it can all be recycled and serves a purpose.
u/MorningMavis
I like that.
u/justkeepinup
lol. You also get paid much more for the work. Gratitude for an associate’s hard work on short notice isn’t asking for much. Your problems aren’t the same here.
u/SicilianUSGuy
Is your thank you in a good pay check? If not, say good bye.
u/CheckTheBlotter
“Thx” always sounds passive aggressive to me. Garbage way to talk to a colleague.
u/MorningMavis
Don't generally mediate my cases before the close of discovery. I think we just practice in very different areas of law. Trust, I'm not criticizing, I'm looking for ways to capture more and m
u/musteatbrainz
He says he uses it as a trial plan - it can all be recycled and serves a purpose.
u/MorningMavis
Attorneys who can resolve or dismiss cases before or through discovery? At least half of my cases never make it to SJ stage?
u/Low-Arm-9230
Start finding self-satisfaction in your work that is well done. Leaving that to others is an unrealistic expectation that you will be grossly disappointed by, on a regular basis.
u/MorningMavis
Not if you don't file an MSJ?
u/Denimchikn1976
Perfect post lol
u/_BindersFullOfWomen_
At least the judge didn’t reply with a thumbs down emoji.
u/rascal_king
Or go on the snipe hunt to find the dispositive binding case he/she swears exists. "I know there's a case that says this!"
u/W3bneck
Yet.
u/9bytheCrows
Did the same a few months ago for an argument brief, except it was two partners sharing a client, and I spent 7 billable hours in my office on a Sunday on my birthday after I found the edits
u/_BindersFullOfWomen_
FYI - just because she’s retired doesn’t mean you can’t learn from her. Tell her you got assigned some of her cases and would love to talk to her about them over coffee so you can get fully c
u/AcidaliaPlanitia
As someone who's only ever been in house, I'm horrified by this shit you all have to deal with.
u/Heavy-Comfortable133
I don’t get this at all. A week is plenty of time for a MSJ. I routinely write complicated motions and briefs in days if not hours. Same with my colleagues. No one is giving me any arguments
u/DangerousAnalysis967
One week is super unfair for a MSJ. Great job getting it done. Your partner doesn’t owe you a party for getting it done. But he/she owed you a bit more than a thank you.
u/Live_Alarm_8052
You don’t really know if it was complicated or difficult. You clearly think you know, but this response is very know-it-all. You don’t. I’ve done biglaw and small stuff, the work is quite var
u/hankhillforprez
Take what that poster said as great, broad advice for how to proceed through any lawsuit. You don’t literally need to start a skeleton MSJ on day 1 like they do, but for every depo, every dis
u/BossyNRighttt
Any tips on entry level in-house opportunities?
u/AnimatedMeat
On the bright side, you didn't have to gather affidavits in support of the additional arguments the partner wanted, as far as you know.
u/SpecialsSchedule
Jesus people here are miserable. Of course it sucks to be told “thx” to hours and hours of hard work. Like, we’re not robots. Validation and a good work environment is what keeps us coming ba
u/Palamedestarot
Who doesn't file a MSJ on at least one issue?
u/Slice_apizza
Naw, you were given one week? This was a project he dumped on you, so he wouldn’t have to do it himself.
u/musteatbrainz
Even if settles, it forms the backbone of the mediation brief to negotiate the value of the case.
u/itsleakingeverywhere
This is the way. This serves as my outline for discovery, depositions, trial, and everything else. And when it comes time to MSJ, you are laser focused while the plaintiff may be all over the
u/Virgante
lol, I felt that so much.
u/edenburning
This is why the legal profession is known for not knowing how to manage...
u/QueBestia19
At my first job (around 2012) I spent 5 weeks driving around three counties tracking down victims of a perv foster parent based on almost no information and got screamed at daily for any fail
u/rinky79
The last brief I wrote was about 10 pages in 3 hours, including research.
u/corpus4us
Also did they not check in with partner on Friday about the outline/structure? Is OP a shy first year?
u/Severe_Lock8497
Unless you had no involvement in the case before, a nine exhibit brief that is 22 pages long typically is not a Herculean task. A rough rule of thumb is 1 to 1 1/2 hours per page. It is har
u/Superb_Scientist1033
Reply “ur welcome” and attach meme of Clive Owen dying in Bourne Identity: “look what they make you give.”
u/rascal_king
Or go on the snipe hunt to find the dispositive binding case he/she swears exists. "I know there's a case that says this!"
u/CheckTheBlotter
“Thx” always sounds passive aggressive to me. Garbage way to talk to a colleague.
u/Chellaigh
Spelling out the word “thanks” doesn’t put another dime in your bank account.
u/9bytheCrows
Did the same a few months ago for an argument brief, except it was two partners sharing a client, and I spent 7 billable hours in my office on a Sunday on my birthday after I found the edits
u/greenie4422
Fuck I wish I was as good as you
u/Live_Alarm_8052
I would bill something like that as plan and prepare case analysis and strategy.
u/justkeepinup
lol. You also get paid much more for the work. Gratitude for an associate’s hard work on short notice isn’t asking for much. Your problems aren’t the same here.
u/LukeKornet
Bro I have been practicing for a year now and haven’t gotten a “Thx” yet.
u/jensational78
THIS is the way. Organize your claims, defense, and then lock in for discovery.
u/Palamedestarot
OP didn't say that the motion was in addition to all of his other tasks. If the MSJ was the only task, then you've got a point.
u/Iamsomeoneelse2
Solo here - get over it or you’ll always be depressed and co-dependent.
u/Heavy-Comfortable133
I don’t get this at all. A week is plenty of time for a MSJ. I routinely write complicated motions and briefs in days if not hours. Same with my colleagues. No one is giving me any arguments
u/SpecialsSchedule
Jesus people here are miserable. Of course it sucks to be told “thx” to hours and hours of hard work. Like, we’re not robots. Validation and a good work environment is what keeps us coming ba
u/DeweyCheatemHowe
You could easily bill those hours as outling litigation/discovery plan, researching elements of plaintiffs claims, and preparing initial evaluation of a file. Just because it's all part of a
u/NewLawGuy24
You did well. F that partner.
If you are proud of the work, client first.
Find a place that appreciates you
u/AcidaliaPlanitia
As someone who's only ever been in house, I'm horrified by this shit you all have to deal with.
u/Sin-Enthusiast
You did God’s work under employ of the devil.
I hope you’re well & standing tall.
u/Subject_Disaster_798
That I do. But, developing documents along the way, which at some point would only take a "couple of hours" to "polish off" all documents necessary to bring or defend an MSJ? Maybe if I pract
u/Artistic_Finance_868
Excellent work. But you know lawyers don’t appreciate other lawyers
u/WinterHost
damn couldn’t just empathize with OP huh? y’all really making me cringe that I’m in the same profession as you 😩
u/hankhillforprez
And it only had 9 exhibits. Now, to be fair, those could have been very lengthy deposition transcripts, or complex document references, but… this just really doesn’t seem like a very difficul
u/greenie4422
Yeah this partner has no foresight and only decides to do something on his cases (I.e assign an associate to do it) at the absolute last possible second. This is not the first time he’s done
u/lilylister
I think they do it on purpose lol. That’s an awesome effort. If only you could think of something similar for the partner next time they have a massive and unlikely win (I mean don’t, you d
u/Superb_Scientist1033
Reply “ur welcome” and attach meme of Clive Owen dying in Bourne Identity: “look what they make you give.”
u/Toby_Keiths_Jorts
Perfect 😂
u/jerryatrix27
I don’t know that you did anything wrong. I just wouldn’t expect more than a thank you for drafting a motion and getting it timely filed. You’ll be asked 9,000 more times to draft motions. I
u/dex721
Good. You learned this lesson early as opposed to finding out after you'd given up vacations, hobbies, having kids, etc. for a job that doesn't care.
Give your job what is necessary but rem
u/ConLawouisiana
This is crazy helpful advice. I hope you'd consider mentoring in some aspect. As a former teacher, thank you!
u/Sea-Relative2130
Perfect riposte!
u/09212865
Ugh I would hate to encounter that many pages with so little effort behind them. If the research is worth that little of your time you should be able to say it in less pages
u/never_more-nevermore
Exactly
u/greenie4422
Fuck I wish I was as good as you
u/rinky79
Criminal law moves fast. If I spent a week on 10 pages I'd get fired. We worry less about typos and more about getting the argument on the page.
u/johnnygalt1776
Welcome to the world of litigation—insufferable and ungrateful gunners, twats, and raging dickheads with zero management skills.
u/MorningMavis
I like that.
u/PBO123567
I’m a partner and have been doing this for 20 years. I still sometimes pull long hours on MSJs that win but never get recognized. We do it for the clients.