AI Transparency Demand: Market for Ethical Auditing & Open Development Tools.
The strong feeling for public transparency in AI development, previously noted, is now intensifying and evolving due to growing distrust about powerful AI being trained in secret by state or corporate actors. This shift from demanding transparency to demanding verifiable trust and robust control mechanisms creates significant market opportunities. Companies can capitalize by offering independent AI assurance and auditing services to validate AI safety, capabilities, and ethical alignment, addressing fears of an unregulated "AI arms race" and the covert development of "AGI." Further opportunities lie in ethical data and transparent AI development tools that ensure data provenance (meeting calls for "consent to train AI") and auditable model creation. There's also growing demand for robust open-source AI ecosystems as a community-vetted alternative, and for advanced AI safety and control technologies, including explainability tools and "kill switch" concepts, to manage existential risks. Lastly, AI governance and policy frameworks are crucial for navigating complexities and addressing public fears of "catastrophic consequences." These areas cater directly to the heightened anxiety and pragmatic demand for tangible safeguards in an era of rapidly advancing, potentially opaque AI development.
Origin Reddit Post
r/futurology
We Should Not Allow Powerful AI to Be Trained in Secret: The Case for Increased Public Transparency
Posted by u/katxwoods•06/01/2025
Top Comments
u/laser_man6
Have you... Actually read any of his works with the laws?
Also lol thinking you can just 'restrain' AI. That's not how it works.
u/S7ageNinja
You have to be completely delusional to believe anything is going to stop governments from developing tech in secret
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
It's great how AI development is constantly referred to in the same terms as nuclear bomb programs, with "arms races" and "gaps". Says a lot of good things about the future.
u/Black_RL
We also shouldn’t allow nuclear weapons, rape, murder, women oppression, torture, hunger, war, religion extremism, extermination of other species, pollution.
Yet here we are.
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
It's great how AI development is constantly referred to in the same terms as nuclear bomb programs, with "arms races" and "gaps". Says a lot of good things about the future.
u/bustedbuddha
How would you propose to actually enforce this rule? It seems like a nice idea but one of the big problems with most if not all of these proposals is the lack of any reasonable way to enforce
u/rubensinclair
I do not understand why we have not adapted Asimov’s three rules of robotics to AI. We need SOME constraints for AI, just like we do for capitalism
u/dE3L
Also, every robot needs a kill switch, and everyone needs to know how to use it.
u/Kaerevek
Exactly. Governments have been doing this forever and won't stop now. The transparency talk is nice but completely unrealistic when it comes to actual military and intelligence applications.
u/Scary-Maximum7707
Inb4 the "AI can never be more than it is today" crowd comes charging in. I swear if this was the late 1800's they would be arguing how we'l always use horse and carriage for transportation.
u/badguy84
The fact that this person thinks that "Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrophic consequences if developed irresponsibly." Is kind of
u/alithy33
you can train your own kid in secret to be one of the best assassins on the planet. nobody will tell you otherwise. the paranoia is unfounded with ai, honestly.
u/dE3L
Also, every robot needs a kill switch, and everyone needs to know how to use it.
u/Kaerevek
Exactly. Governments have been doing this forever and won't stop now. The transparency talk is nice but completely unrealistic when it comes to actual military and intelligence applications.
u/badguy84
The fact that this person thinks that "Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrophic consequences if developed irresponsibly." Is kind of
u/bustedbuddha
How would you propose to actually enforce this rule? It seems like a nice idea but one of the big problems with most if not all of these proposals is the lack of any reasonable way to enforce
u/tisd-lv-mf84
Ai was never created with respect to democratic policies or checks and balances.
In other countries that have far more developed infrastructures Ai is directly dictated by the country’s gov
u/Kaerevek
Exactly. Governments have been doing this forever and won't stop now. The transparency talk is nice but completely unrealistic when it comes to actual military and intelligence applications.
u/katxwoods
Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrophic consequences if developed irresponsibly.
* Current **secretive deve
u/miklayn
The owners of AI technologies are about to become the outright and singular enemies of the good People of Earth.
Beware.
u/FuturologyBot
The following submission statement was provided by /u/katxwoods:
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Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrop
u/shirk-work
It's great that we're dealing with things as they are? I think you don't understand the possibilities of human or super human artificial general intelligence.
u/QuentinUK
Interesting! 666
u/miklayn
The owners of AI technologies are about to become the outright and singular enemies of the good People of Earth.
Beware.
u/FuturologyBot
The following submission statement was provided by /u/katxwoods:
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Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrop
u/XeNoGeaR52
Same as we shouldn't allow approval by default. If we don't explicitly consent to train AI with our data, it should be denied.
All internet should be banned from AI training unless they all
u/katxwoods
Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrophic consequences if developed irresponsibly.
* Current **secretive deve
u/alithy33
you can train your own kid in secret to be one of the best assassins on the planet. nobody will tell you otherwise. the paranoia is unfounded with ai, honestly.
u/shirk-work
Nah they just stole from chatgpt and released it publicly with some anti-tiananmen square pro-ccp prompting.
u/abrandis
Exactly when real AGI happens (not this LLM masquerading as Agi nascent), you better believe governments will protect it with the same guardrails as nukes, chemical weapons,state secrets..
u/JohnAtticus
What are you trying to say?
That murder is illegal but it still happens so this shows that trying to stop a bad thing is pointless... And so we should not try to regulate AI?
Do I need to e
u/rubensinclair
I do not understand why we have not adapted Asimov’s three rules of robotics to AI. We need SOME constraints for AI, just like we do for capitalism
u/XeNoGeaR52
Same as we shouldn't allow approval by default. If we don't explicitly consent to train AI with our data, it should be denied.
All internet should be banned from AI training unless they all
u/katxwoods
Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrophic consequences if developed irresponsibly.
* Current **secretive deve
u/tisd-lv-mf84
Ai was never created with respect to democratic policies or checks and balances.
In other countries that have far more developed infrastructures Ai is directly dictated by the country’s gov
u/Black_RL
We also shouldn’t allow nuclear weapons, rape, murder, women oppression, torture, hunger, war, religion extremism, extermination of other species, pollution.
Yet here we are.
u/laser_man6
Have you... Actually read any of his works with the laws?
Also lol thinking you can just 'restrain' AI. That's not how it works.
u/S7ageNinja
You have to be completely delusional to believe anything is going to stop governments from developing tech in secret
u/QuentinUK
The us ai companies such as chatgpt are saying that copyright law has to be discarded because it will make ai training impossible if they have to get permission and pay royalties to the autho
u/miklayn
The owners of AI technologies are about to become the outright and singular enemies of the good People of Earth.
Beware.
u/JohnAtticus
What are you trying to say?
That murder is illegal but it still happens so this shows that trying to stop a bad thing is pointless... And so we should not try to regulate AI?
Do I need to e
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
If I were making a technology for the betterment of mankind my mind would not instantly go "we need to make sure this can kill everyone better than China".
u/tisd-lv-mf84
Ai was never created with respect to democratic policies or checks and balances.
In other countries that have far more developed infrastructures Ai is directly dictated by the country’s gov
u/JohnAtticus
What are you trying to say?
That murder is illegal but it still happens so this shows that trying to stop a bad thing is pointless... And so we should not try to regulate AI?
Do I need to e
u/S7ageNinja
You have to be completely delusional to believe anything is going to stop governments from developing tech in secret
u/shirk-work
There's the base assumption that AI will not be used for warfare which is already not true on both fronts. The first with superior AI will be able to dominate the other in warfare even with c
u/shirk-work
We should not allow powerful nuclear weapons to be developed in secret.
Honestly we need to slow down the current AI arms race but I have the feeling China will feign slowing down only to c
u/laser_man6
Have you... Actually read any of his works with the laws?
Also lol thinking you can just 'restrain' AI. That's not how it works.
u/bustedbuddha
How would you propose to actually enforce this rule? It seems like a nice idea but one of the big problems with most if not all of these proposals is the lack of any reasonable way to enforce
u/shirk-work
We should not allow powerful nuclear weapons to be developed in secret.
Honestly we need to slow down the current AI arms race but I have the feeling China will feign slowing down only to c
u/XeNoGeaR52
Same as we shouldn't allow approval by default. If we don't explicitly consent to train AI with our data, it should be denied.
All internet should be banned from AI training unless they all
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
Someone should outlaw murder
u/rubensinclair
I do not understand why we have not adapted Asimov’s three rules of robotics to AI. We need SOME constraints for AI, just like we do for capitalism
u/shirk-work
We should not allow powerful nuclear weapons to be developed in secret.
Honestly we need to slow down the current AI arms race but I have the feeling China will feign slowing down only to c
u/abrandis
Exactly when real AGI happens (not this LLM masquerading as Agi nascent), you better believe governments will protect it with the same guardrails as nukes, chemical weapons,state secrets..
u/FuturologyBot
The following submission statement was provided by /u/katxwoods:
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Submission statement:
* Advanced AI systems may reach human-level intelligence within years, with potentially catastrop
u/shirk-work
It's great that we're dealing with things as they are? I think you don't understand the possibilities of human or super human artificial general intelligence.
u/Black_RL
We also shouldn’t allow nuclear weapons, rape, murder, women oppression, torture, hunger, war, religion extremism, extermination of other species, pollution.
Yet here we are.
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
This is just being horny for the apocalypse.
u/dE3L
Also, every robot needs a kill switch, and everyone needs to know how to use it.
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
Someone should outlaw murder
u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS
If I were making a technology for the betterment of mankind my mind would not instantly go "we need to make sure this can kill everyone better than China".
u/Just_trying_it_out
Nice so we just remove that prompting and we get an open source model better than what our companies want to release?
Ty deepseek bros
u/abrandis
Exactly when real AGI happens (not this LLM masquerading as Agi nascent), you better believe governments will protect it with the same guardrails as nukes, chemical weapons,state secrets..