u/ProfessionalGlove319
Agree, worth adding that investors have been a historically high % of total demand for at least the passed 5 years. 13% - 20% of all purchases depending on the source.
Markets with high inv
u/Dmoan
Amount of single family and mf rental units are at near record levels, in certains parts of deep south entire new construction of condos in low income areas where bought up by investors..
u/britlor
My sister-in-law and her husband just bought a townhome with the intention of renting it out in a couple years. They don't want to live in it long term and know turning around to sell it in 3
u/IndyBananaJones
I wish every landlord a very crushing cash flow drought and equity crash.
u/Neat-Beautiful-5505
I agree but I think it will be limited to certain areas. FL and TX blew up with the IG bros doing BRRRR strategy except those two states have some of the highest percent of owners/lowest perc
u/Dmoan
Amount of single family and mf rental units are at near record levels, in certains parts of deep south entire new construction of condos in low income areas where bought up by investors..
u/ProfessionalGlove319
Agree, worth adding that investors have been a historically high % of total demand for at least the passed 5 years. 13% - 20% of all purchases depending on the source.
Markets with high inv
u/newerajay
They've priced rent sky high. Prices in Southern California have tripled in 5 years time
u/Mcdickle
Don’t forget that all lot of these properties were likely underwritten at much lower interest rates. As rates started rising a few years ago the properties no longer cash flowed at that level
u/newerajay
They've priced rent sky high. Prices in Southern California have tripled in 5 years time
u/Sunny1-5
On your number 2 point, rent maximum for a given market is reached a whole lot faster than home prices or mortgages are. We know this from history; high cost areas of living never get close
u/Neat-Beautiful-5505
I agree but I think it will be limited to certain areas. FL and TX blew up with the IG bros doing BRRRR strategy except those two states have some of the highest percent of owners/lowest perc
u/telmnstr
America is caught up with this. Where I live I see it. Every time townhouse sells it seems like the buyers live for a year then go to rent it. I don’t get it tho, $700k townhouse for $3k in r
u/Polished_pointer64
This is so weird to see this data. I live in Salt Lake City close to the biggest university in the state. There are a lot of multi family homes/units for sale right now. Legit 4 within 2 bloc
u/IndyBananaJones
1. Being a landlord isn't actual work, being a property manager / maintenance worker / groundskeeper is though, and as these people get squeezed they stop hiring that stuff out.
2. Rents a
u/LaneKerman
Replace “willing” with “able”. Gotta eat.
u/Longjumping-Wrap5741
It's going to happen when your expenses are 5k and the incoming rent is 4k. You can only bleed for so long. Then an appliance breaks and it's over.
u/Polished_pointer64
This is so weird to see this data. I live in Salt Lake City close to the biggest university in the state. There are a lot of multi family homes/units for sale right now. Legit 4 within 2 bloc
u/telmnstr
Own an apartment building, charge people rent, don’t pay the loan…. Profit!!!
u/RJ5R
I mean if all it takes is 6 months of -$1,000/mo cash flow and a -$650 fridge expense, that person was never financially situated enough to responsibly provide housing to other humans..but th
u/britlor
My sister-in-law and her husband just bought a townhome with the intention of renting it out in a couple years. They don't want to live in it long term and know turning around to sell it in 3
u/Polished_pointer64
This is so weird to see this data. I live in Salt Lake City close to the biggest university in the state. There are a lot of multi family homes/units for sale right now. Legit 4 within 2 bloc
u/VendettaKarma
Wow imagine overpaying based on real estate snake oil salesman selling you no-work wealth.
It’s almost like they did it to enrich themselves and fuck every client with no dinner.
u/hellloredddittt
Last bubble was subprime homeowners. This one will be the buy-to-rent investors.
u/Sunny1-5
And there you go. Rents won’t be going much higher as wages have once again reached their max caps. Really quickly. Investment buying doesn’t make sense. Take those buyers out of the pict
u/DJamesAndrews
This feels like the tip of the iceberg, Fannie and Freddie are typically underwritten and issued many factors more conservatively than debt funds.
Values remain way off the their 2021-22 hi
u/Neat-Beautiful-5505
I agree but I think it will be limited to certain areas. FL and TX blew up with the IG bros doing BRRRR strategy except those two states have some of the highest percent of owners/lowest perc
u/IndyBananaJones
1. Being a landlord isn't actual work, being a property manager / maintenance worker / groundskeeper is though, and as these people get squeezed they stop hiring that stuff out.
2. Rents a
u/Sunny1-5
On your number 2 point, rent maximum for a given market is reached a whole lot faster than home prices or mortgages are. We know this from history; high cost areas of living never get close
u/RJ5R
I mean if all it takes is 6 months of -$1,000/mo cash flow and a -$650 fridge expense, that person was never financially situated enough to responsibly provide housing to other humans..but th
u/Sunny1-5
And there you go. Rents won’t be going much higher as wages have once again reached their max caps. Really quickly. Investment buying doesn’t make sense. Take those buyers out of the pict
u/OllieGoodBoy2021
I blame TikTok and Reels for spreading the idea that everyone can “Get rich with passive income! Just buy two houses and rent the other one out, then get another one with the rent income, eas
u/RJ5R
I mean if all it takes is 6 months of -$1,000/mo cash flow and a -$650 fridge expense, that person was never financially situated enough to responsibly provide housing to other humans..but th
u/VendettaKarma
Wow imagine overpaying based on real estate snake oil salesman selling you no-work wealth.
It’s almost like they did it to enrich themselves and fuck every client with no dinner.
u/ProfessionalGlove319
Agree, worth adding that investors have been a historically high % of total demand for at least the passed 5 years. 13% - 20% of all purchases depending on the source.
Markets with high inv
u/OllieGoodBoy2021
I blame TikTok and Reels for spreading the idea that everyone can “Get rich with passive income! Just buy two houses and rent the other one out, then get another one with the rent income, eas
u/Dmoan
Amount of single family and mf rental units are at near record levels, in certains parts of deep south entire new construction of condos in low income areas where bought up by investors..
u/Likely_a_bot
In my area lots of multi-families are going on the market. I suspect a couple of things might be contributing to this:
1. The Tiktok investors that jumped in since 2021 aren't seeing the re
u/Longjumping-Wrap5741
It's going to happen when your expenses are 5k and the incoming rent is 4k. You can only bleed for so long. Then an appliance breaks and it's over.
u/Likely_a_bot
In my area lots of multi-families are going on the market. I suspect a couple of things might be contributing to this:
1. The Tiktok investors that jumped in since 2021 aren't seeing the re
u/DJamesAndrews
This feels like the tip of the iceberg, Fannie and Freddie are typically underwritten and issued many factors more conservatively than debt funds.
Values remain way off the their 2021-22 hi
u/Next_Dawkins
This is likely a function of a zero interest -> rapid interest increase environment.
Even people at 4% - 5% who are looking to upsize from a townhome have a hard time justifying selling
u/DJamesAndrews
This feels like the tip of the iceberg, Fannie and Freddie are typically underwritten and issued many factors more conservatively than debt funds.
Values remain way off the their 2021-22 hi
u/telmnstr
Own an apartment building, charge people rent, don’t pay the loan…. Profit!!!
u/peace2calm
I've listened to Melody Wright a lot. She was in the deep core of the real estate industry when 2008 happened.
I think I heard her comment that what pushed the market off the cliff in 2008
u/ProfessionalGlove319
Agree, worth adding that investors have been a historically high % of total demand for at least the passed 5 years. 13% - 20% of all purchases depending on the source.
Markets with high inv
u/Next_Dawkins
This is likely a function of a zero interest -> rapid interest increase environment.
Even people at 4% - 5% who are looking to upsize from a townhome have a hard time justifying selling
u/Likely_a_bot
In my area lots of multi-families are going on the market. I suspect a couple of things might be contributing to this:
1. The Tiktok investors that jumped in since 2021 aren't seeing the re
u/Sunny1-5
And there you go. Rents won’t be going much higher as wages have once again reached their max caps. Really quickly. Investment buying doesn’t make sense. Take those buyers out of the pict
u/peace2calm
I've listened to Melody Wright a lot. She was in the deep core of the real estate industry when 2008 happened.
I think I heard her comment that what pushed the market off the cliff in 2008
u/OllieGoodBoy2021
I blame TikTok and Reels for spreading the idea that everyone can “Get rich with passive income! Just buy two houses and rent the other one out, then get another one with the rent income, eas
u/peace2calm
I've listened to Melody Wright a lot. She was in the deep core of the real estate industry when 2008 happened.
I think I heard her comment that what pushed the market off the cliff in 2008
u/RockyPi
Many of those developments are being developed as rental properties. Whole subdivisions of homes not to sell but to permanently rent. Is dystopian as fuck.
u/RockyPi
Many of those developments are being developed as rental properties. Whole subdivisions of homes not to sell but to permanently rent. Is dystopian as fuck.
u/telmnstr
Own an apartment building, charge people rent, don’t pay the loan…. Profit!!!
u/Next_Dawkins
This is likely a function of a zero interest -> rapid interest increase environment.
Even people at 4% - 5% who are looking to upsize from a townhome have a hard time justifying selling
u/Likely_a_bot
In my area lots of multi-families are going on the market. I suspect a couple of things might be contributing to this:
1. The Tiktok investors that jumped in since 2021 aren't seeing the re
u/RockyPi
Many of those developments are being developed as rental properties. Whole subdivisions of homes not to sell but to permanently rent. Is dystopian as fuck.
u/britlor
My sister-in-law and her husband just bought a townhome with the intention of renting it out in a couple years. They don't want to live in it long term and know turning around to sell it in 3
u/newerajay
They've priced rent sky high. Prices in Southern California have tripled in 5 years time
u/VendettaKarma
Wow imagine overpaying based on real estate snake oil salesman selling you no-work wealth.
It’s almost like they did it to enrich themselves and fuck every client with no dinner.
u/Longjumping-Wrap5741
It's going to happen when your expenses are 5k and the incoming rent is 4k. You can only bleed for so long. Then an appliance breaks and it's over.
u/Likely_a_bot
In my area lots of multi-families are going on the market. I suspect a couple of things might be contributing to this:
1. The Tiktok investors that jumped in since 2021 aren't seeing the re
u/Mcdickle
Don’t forget that all lot of these properties were likely underwritten at much lower interest rates. As rates started rising a few years ago the properties no longer cash flowed at that level
u/Dmoan
Amount of single family and mf rental units are at near record levels, in certains parts of deep south entire new construction of condos in low income areas where bought up by investors..
u/britlor
I don't get it. They bought the place, 3 be 2.5 bath, for like 270k I think. There is a house down the street from me, ranch style, selling for 275K. They are using this place to test the wat
u/OllieGoodBoy2021
I blame TikTok and Reels for spreading the idea that everyone can “Get rich with passive income! Just buy two houses and rent the other one out, then get another one with the rent income, eas
u/DJamesAndrews
This feels like the tip of the iceberg, Fannie and Freddie are typically underwritten and issued many factors more conservatively than debt funds.
Values remain way off the their 2021-22 hi
u/britlor
My sister-in-law and her husband just bought a townhome with the intention of renting it out in a couple years. They don't want to live in it long term and know turning around to sell it in 3
u/Next_Dawkins
This is likely a function of a zero interest -> rapid interest increase environment.
Even people at 4% - 5% who are looking to upsize from a townhome have a hard time justifying selling
u/britlor
I don't get it. They bought the place, 3 be 2.5 bath, for like 270k I think. There is a house down the street from me, ranch style, selling for 275K. They are using this place to test the wat
u/Mcdickle
Don’t forget that all lot of these properties were likely underwritten at much lower interest rates. As rates started rising a few years ago the properties no longer cash flowed at that level
u/telmnstr
Own an apartment building, charge people rent, don’t pay the loan…. Profit!!!
u/LaneKerman
Replace “willing” with “able”. Gotta eat.
u/telmnstr
America is caught up with this. Where I live I see it. Every time townhouse sells it seems like the buyers live for a year then go to rent it. I don’t get it tho, $700k townhouse for $3k in r
u/Sunny1-5
And there you go. Rents won’t be going much higher as wages have once again reached their max caps. Really quickly. Investment buying doesn’t make sense. Take those buyers out of the pict
u/VendettaKarma
Wow imagine overpaying based on real estate snake oil salesman selling you no-work wealth.
It’s almost like they did it to enrich themselves and fuck every client with no dinner.
u/misterpickles69
That’s what happened in The Big Short just after Mark told the stripper her adjustable rate was gonna go up on her 5 or 6 properties.
u/Dmoan
Amount of single family and mf rental units are at near record levels, in certains parts of deep south entire new construction of condos in low income areas where bought up by investors..
u/JoseSpiknSpan
Sounds like they have the landlord mindset
u/hellloredddittt
Last bubble was subprime homeowners. This one will be the buy-to-rent investors.
u/LaneKerman
Replace “willing” with “able”. Gotta eat.
u/Mcdickle
Don’t forget that all lot of these properties were likely underwritten at much lower interest rates. As rates started rising a few years ago the properties no longer cash flowed at that level
u/hellloredddittt
Last bubble was subprime homeowners. This one will be the buy-to-rent investors.
u/Mcdickle
Don’t forget that all lot of these properties were likely underwritten at much lower interest rates. As rates started rising a few years ago the properties no longer cash flowed at that level
u/LaneKerman
Replace “willing” with “able”. Gotta eat.
u/hellloredddittt
Last bubble was subprime homeowners. This one will be the buy-to-rent investors.
u/Polished_pointer64
This is so weird to see this data. I live in Salt Lake City close to the biggest university in the state. There are a lot of multi family homes/units for sale right now. Legit 4 within 2 bloc
u/newerajay
They've priced rent sky high. Prices in Southern California have tripled in 5 years time
u/Sunny1-5
On your number 2 point, rent maximum for a given market is reached a whole lot faster than home prices or mortgages are. We know this from history; high cost areas of living never get close
u/Sunny1-5
On your number 2 point, rent maximum for a given market is reached a whole lot faster than home prices or mortgages are. We know this from history; high cost areas of living never get close
u/LaneKerman
Replace “willing” with “able”. Gotta eat.
u/Sunny1-5
On your number 2 point, rent maximum for a given market is reached a whole lot faster than home prices or mortgages are. We know this from history; high cost areas of living never get close
u/RockyPi
Many of those developments are being developed as rental properties. Whole subdivisions of homes not to sell but to permanently rent. Is dystopian as fuck.
u/britlor
I don't get it. They bought the place, 3 be 2.5 bath, for like 270k I think. There is a house down the street from me, ranch style, selling for 275K. They are using this place to test the wat
u/Sunny1-5
And there you go. Rents won’t be going much higher as wages have once again reached their max caps. Really quickly. Investment buying doesn’t make sense. Take those buyers out of the pict
u/Neat-Beautiful-5505
I agree but I think it will be limited to certain areas. FL and TX blew up with the IG bros doing BRRRR strategy except those two states have some of the highest percent of owners/lowest perc
u/telmnstr
America is caught up with this. Where I live I see it. Every time townhouse sells it seems like the buyers live for a year then go to rent it. I don’t get it tho, $700k townhouse for $3k in r
u/britlor
I don't get it. They bought the place, 3 be 2.5 bath, for like 270k I think. There is a house down the street from me, ranch style, selling for 275K. They are using this place to test the wat
u/VendettaKarma
Wow imagine overpaying based on real estate snake oil salesman selling you no-work wealth.
It’s almost like they did it to enrich themselves and fuck every client with no dinner.
u/hellloredddittt
Last bubble was subprime homeowners. This one will be the buy-to-rent investors.
u/RJ5R
I mean if all it takes is 6 months of -$1,000/mo cash flow and a -$650 fridge expense, that person was never financially situated enough to responsibly provide housing to other humans..but th
u/Longjumping-Wrap5741
It's going to happen when your expenses are 5k and the incoming rent is 4k. You can only bleed for so long. Then an appliance breaks and it's over.
u/telmnstr
America is caught up with this. Where I live I see it. Every time townhouse sells it seems like the buyers live for a year then go to rent it. I don’t get it tho, $700k townhouse for $3k in r
u/ProfessionalGlove319
Agree, worth adding that investors have been a historically high % of total demand for at least the passed 5 years. 13% - 20% of all purchases depending on the source.
Markets with high inv