Billionaire-backed new manufacturing town: a hub for future urban development and industry.

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Billionaire Backed 'California Forever' Wants to Build a Manufacturing Town

Posted by u/upyoars•07/22/2025

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u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/SweetSonet

Yes. The billionaires want a little town for themselves.

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/drgoatlord

Auntie Entity runs barter town!

u/EqualityWithoutCiv

What happens if you only teach the Henry Ford version of the American Dream.

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/SweetSonet

Yes. The billionaires want a little town for themselves.

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

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u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/ikaiyoo

You mean like Disney world

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/dak4f2

They're going to pollute the shit out of the SF Bay.

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/SweetSonet

And they’ve been trying for decades now. Their ability to make sure they don’t ever have to see a poor person is elite until it’s time for someone to make their coffee

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/[deleted]

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u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/sp3kter

Curtis Yarvins future for us all, ruled by tech ceo's living in corporate cities. Fuck oligarchs

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/woodpecker_greed

No Epstein flight logs if the children just get sent to your office nearby.

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/EqualityWithoutCiv

What happens if you only teach the Henry Ford version of the American Dream.

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/[deleted]

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u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/Lord0fHats

It's not that they don't learn, but how readily they forget and then refuse to understand. I can't count the number of times I've seen people bitch about the failings of modern institutions i

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/SweetSonet

Yes. The billionaires want a little town for themselves.

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/800Volts

So story goes: Manufacturing town -> "We can pay you X% more if you take CompanyCoin!" -> Robotic automation decimates jobs -> "That's definitely a tough spot! Luckily for you we off

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/moobycow

https://news.mongabay.com/2024/12/foreign-investor-lawsuits-impede-honduras-human-rights-environment-protections/#:~:text=A%20$10.8%20billion%20lawsuit.%20The%20island%20of,the%20U.S.%2Dbased

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/dat303

IIRC the colonies were actually Weyland-Yutani company towns too

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/Assassinite9

Better start saving up for your heartbeat, breathing, vision and digestion subscription services.

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/tollbearer

The only reason things got better for our ancestors is because they fought for it. THis is just a return to normal for the capitalists.

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/SeeMarkFly

It's just like an HOA but with armed police that agree with "King" Karen.

u/Chemical_Shallot_575

We are bringing back the *company town* but pretending it’s a new idea? Like Pullman, Illinois and Lowell, Massachusetts. But like, with new tech.

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/Tactless_Ogre

Yes, but think of this like the Alien Sequel movies: There's always another dumbass CEO who thinks they're the ones who can control the face-eating xenomorph.

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/coredweller1785

With no unions No regulations No Osha No protections at all Sounds great

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/leviticuschom

Sounds about right, except they’re leaving out the part where the people who do the manufacturing live elsewhere.

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/commandrix

Company towns are the reason you can own your own "abandoned" town if you have the money to buy one. It'll dry up when the reason it was built in the first place dries up. I do like the idea

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/Silberbaum

Oh, they will make a train connection?

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/redditismylawyer

Haha…. This is so good. Thankfully a carpet bagging billionaire has cracked the feudal nut and brought to us the serfdom we’ve been yearning for. Tell you what… you first.

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Festering-Fecal

We messed up allowing money to buy politicians. China got this right when a company and CEO becomes a threat they shut that down. We should do that.

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/ikaiyoo

Because they can't control the people that way it has to be a private town they have to be paid with company dollars that can only be used at The company store and they control the rent they

u/sold_snek

Elon already has one in southern Texas.

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/love_glow

“Work shall set you free” brand of freedumb, eh?

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/mixer2017

Wait, is this not what they do in Asian countries, and the workers live there and work untold crazy amount of hours with little pay? Dude, many in this country cant even handle a 20 hour wee

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/scimitar1312

Fuck Curtis yarvin

u/EqualityWithoutCiv

What happens if you only teach the Henry Ford version of the American Dream.

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/EqualityWithoutCiv

They won't, unless they stop selling the Henry Ford dream as the only one that's viable.

u/dak4f2

They're going to pollute the shit out of the SF Bay.

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/Festering-Fecal

Where's ol silver hand

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/TheodorasOtherSister

A company town like the old coal mines. What was wrong with a middle class? I really miss it.

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

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u/thedude213

I'm sure company scrips are right around the corner for cities like this.

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/Dissonant-Cog

Illiberal ideologies such as these, reject Enlightenment humanism which includes empiricism, ration and logic in favor of pseudoscientific theories. It doesn’t make sense because you are look

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/MinuteWonderful5001

Yipppeeee, more time spent at the ball crushing factory, joyous day, wow is me!!! 🎉🥳😄

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/Greenpoint_Blank

Who run Barter Town?

u/Festering-Fecal

As long as the VA is running im good. Although if something happens I can't whore myself out to Uncle Sam anymore.

u/WildFemmeFatale

“You load sixteen tons, what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go I owe my soul to the company store” - Tennessee Ernie Ford S

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/norcalnatv

of course they do. When there's a government handout, get in line!

u/Photomancer

Kingdoms, mini-cities, or 'gated communities' for the oligarchs and the household staff which are useful to them. As a worker, it becomes a rat race continuing to prove your usefulness, else

u/Sguru1

I really hope they’ll put hazardous materials in the walls so we can all get mesothelioma. It’ll be so nostalgic.

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/kmoonster

I never cease to be amazed how these guys claim to be libertarian while also wanting to be cosplay fascists. The two ideologies are about as far apart as is physically possible, though I sup

u/roychr

like barter town.

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

u/kmoonster

I would just point out that people still know how to make pitchforks. It would behoove these guys to keep that in mind. Edit: ego is a hell of a drug, that is all

u/woodpecker_greed

No Epstein flight logs if the children just get sent to your office nearby.

u/Dissonant-Cog

The foundation of libertarian economic thought is composed of the pseudoscientific theory of praxeology. It cannot manifest itself through magical thinking, any *genuine* attempt to establish

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/butter4dippin

So unions will not be prominent in this proposed city

u/epsdelta74

Ain't that the truth

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/Festering-Fecal

They really all do want their own cities. If we don't get serious regulations we really are going to be living in cyberpunk

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/altiorrex

Freedom cities in the states, or network states globally. There is a push for technofeudalism based microstates from the oligarchs and their puppets. So far, little resistance.

u/lurksAtDogs

Can we stop making the future Octavia Butler warned us about?

u/Festering-Fecal

Im aware. There's a overlap with tech bros and fachism like they all have this fantasy of a librarianish paradise but really it's them wanting to be kings. Having been near that world a l

u/-DictatedButNotRead

Sounds like México tbh...

u/love_glow

And each will have their own cryptocurrency, aka company script.

u/PalpitationFrosty242

Company towns, not a new thing. This network state shit though, propagated by Balaji Srinivasan and the like, is.

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/FuturologyBot

The following submission statement was provided by /u/upyoars: --- > Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in

u/Thelonius_Dunk

Didn't we already try this before in the Gilded Age and realized it was a bad idea?

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/redfox2008

you load 16 tons

u/kmoonster

Yes, I am aware. I should have mentioned that. Still doesn't make sense (outside of ego), though. Elon Musk was talking about something similar for his new Texas thing. This is just feu

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/Strict_Weather9063

Night City, a hellhole by any other name.

u/Festering-Fecal

Will do Weirdly though I think it's similar to how normal governments form like they have money and power so they consolidate

u/NtheLegend

Corporate branded modern facilities flanked by slums, sounds like a first world dystopian hellscape to me.

u/MulletDGAF

I played like 40hrs of that game then had to quit cuz it was giving me cyberpunk nightmares which felt way too possible lol

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/roychr

Well its on us to enact change.

u/TraditionalBackspace

The oligarchs long for 1900 again when corporations ruled with their boots on the workers' necks.

u/altiorrex

Maybe channel that into being the change you wish to see in the world. It doesn't have to be sudden or dramatic, gradual and accumulating is fine too. Becoming ungovernable to illicit, uncons

u/woodpecker_greed

No Epstein flight logs if the children just get sent to your office nearby.

u/Assassinite9

Not with that attitude! I'm sure we could cram your organs in a murder suit and point you in the direction of the people Uncle Sam doesn't like this week!

u/leoperd_2_ace

We already did company towns. Let’s no go backwards

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/MustangJeff

Master blaster.

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/HawkeyeByMarriage

It's a freedom city for sure

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/Whaatabutt

lol hiring in cheap labor I’m sure. This is why America outsources everything manufacturing.

u/kmoonster

I'm confused why this would require building an entire town. This is not exactly in the middle of nowhere. Why not just locate your campus in such a way that you can have station(s) serviced

u/Goldelux

Nope, you’re leaving out the part where all the manufacturing is done by robots and AI

u/redfox2008

Yup, but instead of losing access to an app, we would have to uproot our entire family.

u/TheXypris

well we are in a second gilded age

u/Assassinite9

Luigi approved

u/maifee

That's the definition of slavery. I hate it, but the fact is the world is procedurally breaking apart. And being born in one of the most peaceful times makes me hate it even further.

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/BadAtExisting

Well that doesn’t scream USSR or Communist China or anything. /s

u/Dissonant-Cog

Libertarianism is a hyper-individualistic ideology, more so than even neoliberalism. It’s not *no one should be in charge*, it’s no one should be in charge except for me. *Libertarianism for

u/ImAMindlessTool

To lease but not sell? “Life as a subscription” getting realer by the day

u/Dissonant-Cog

These towns are part of the dark enlightenment which seeks to dismantle democracy, Balkanize America and establish a patchwork of technomonarchy city-states. The goal are separate neofeudal

u/Arathaon185

If you resist you get fucked Honduras let them in under a special economic zone and now the fuckers are doing human experiments and when Honduras said stop that they sued for 2/3 of Hondura

u/Franklin_le_Tanklin

16 tones, and what do you get. Another day older and deeper in debt. St. Peter don’t you call me cause I can’t go, I owe my soul to the company store

u/Oxen_aka_nexO

Cyberpunk once again proven to be the most relevant genre of fiction in present times. And it won't stay fiction for long if we continue down this path.

u/Festering-Fecal

Well I always said when I die I want my ashes mixed into a bunch of explosives and thrown at my enemies as a last FU

u/sharthunter

We called em company towns.

u/Wise-Radish-7271

Try reading Snow Crash, a fantastic book about the Corp Cities and the southern country Jesus Land.

u/Festering-Fecal

It's sadly looking like a reality like companies already own politicians and write the laws. Next step is to open mini cities they run and govern. I suppose though it's not really that di

u/Cantinkeror

So fucking slow thinking ( like a ca foxcon is some fucking epiphany)

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/TheXypris

neo feudalism

u/TheRexRider

"Billionaire suggests idea for dystopian society. This time, it's to Make America Company Towns Again."

u/Purona

People who say this have a vast misunderstanding of what modern manufacturing is. At the end of the day we don't have the manufacturing base to build the machines that have the capability t

u/SweetSonet

Hopefully they end up in a submersible like the others

u/2020steve

Begin by getting people to move there to get everything up and running. Then once the factories are fully automated, you jack up all the rents so the residents will have to move to another ne

u/ikaiyoo

No fucking shit. You don't say they want to make a company town you're kidding whoever could have foresaw this

u/kmoonster

The discrepancy between "no one should be in charge" and "absolute rule by one person" is what gets to me. I don't disagree per se, just...so bizarre to me that application of a thing requir

u/upyoars

> Last year, officials from California Forever pulled an initiative from the ballot box to build a city from scratch in Solano County. Now, it’s back with a plan to build something else th

u/redfox2008

As we see through out the world's history, by the time enough people wake the hell up, it's too late. The damage being done now will take generations to reverse. So no, I don't think pitch fo

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