u/MoronTheBall
Gish is certainly in the conversation of top debut albums of all time, and while I don't want to sound adversarial, Gish appears on the lists I have seen. Boy? Never.
u/Chopper3
It got huge praise at the time of release
u/SP-10MK2
I came here to say this. Duran Duran didn’t really catch on here in the US until their second album. But that first album is amazing and “Planet Earth” is still my absolute favorite Duran Dur
u/FeistyChickadee
Duran Duran's self-titled debut is solid from beginning to end. People still dismiss them as a mere pop group, but you can hear the solid songwriting and musicianship throughout, from the sta
u/chuckerton
Because they evolved quickly into something quite different, Ministry’s debut album *With Sympathy* is looked upon as kind of a joke, but I find it really enjoyable for what it is.
u/TandemRapper
Motorcycle Emptiness is such a great song, though.
u/VokThee
Well, I'm not making those lists. Boy is on the Rolling Stones' list of 500 greatest albums of all time though? Maybe the lists you've seen just weren't long enough to include Boy.
u/MoronTheBall
Just checked some of this out (I was not familiar with Ministry) and that was quite the transformation from electro with a bit of funk to industrial that would make Gang of Four blush
u/Planet_Eerie
Manic Street Preachers - Generation Terrorists.
It got completely overshadowed by The Holy Bible (which was amazing and Everything Must Go (which was decent), and is only remembered in the c
u/jingowatt
Finally I see some DD appreciation in the wild! That album is genius and to hear it just after it came out, it was like a call from the future that you could dance to. And then they followed
u/VinnieStacks
You must not have been there when it came out. It got all sorts of love and put the band on the map!
u/MoronTheBall
I was hoping to express that regardless of whatever acclaim Boy got 1980 (I actually heard October in 81 first but got Boy soon after) Boy is never included on lists of top/great/greatest deb
u/VokThee
I think it's one the most iconic albums - I remember that very well. What you have though is that those albums got follow-ups that easily out-sold the first one, with bigger hits, making it s
u/MoronTheBall
Agreed that this debut did not get them recognized for the versality/talent it merited. Wasn't my scene exactly but my love of this early material boomeranged to me later on.
u/VinnieStacks
Understood, but that makes sense because it's not a GREAT debut album. It has songs that were good enough at the time to get things rolling, but it's no Cyndi Lauper "She's So Unusual" for ex
u/ThemBadBeats
Nothing like Gish out there? When it arrived I thought ‘Cool, this sounds - bit like Jane’s Addiction, with a different singer’
u/VokThee
Well, that's your opinion. I like Jane's Addiction too, but to me, Gish was still very different. I like Perry Farrell a lot more as a singer than Billy Corgan, but Jimmy Chamberlin on drums?
u/fnordal
I think both boy and war are great albums, full of angst and things to say.
The Joshua tree is their maturity album, they sold a bit out with rattle and hum, and then they suddenly stopped m
u/MoronTheBall
TIL. I guess the disconnect I have is that (IMO) Boy should be way up there in the discussion of great/greatest debut rock albums of all time, and the "every track a banger" discussion.