ELI5 Helldivers 2 Drama: Why Are Chinese Players Boycotting?

Recurring Problem/Explanation Type: Understanding Game Controversies & "The Drama"

  • Pattern: "What's up with...", "Why are people boycotting X?", "Can someone explain the controversy around Y?"
  • Why it's popular: Gamers often feel deeply invested in their communities and want to understand the strong reactions, like boycotts or outrage, over perceived slights, narrative choices, or balance issues. These events can be complex and not immediately clear, making them a hot topic for discussion.

Content Idea 1: "Explain the Controversy: [Specific Game Event/Feature]"

  • Concept: A deep dive into a specific in-game event, feature rollout, or developer decision that has sparked significant community backlash or confusion.
  • Example Title (based on the provided analysis): "Helldivers 2: The 'Equality-On-Sea' Incident & The Chinese Player Boycott Explained – What Really Happened?"
  • Content Focus:
    • Clearly state the event/feature in question.
    • Explain the developer's apparent intent or the in-game narrative setup.
    • Detail the player reaction, specifically why players were upset (e.g., feeling their efforts were meaningless, perceived unfairness, narrative dissonance, feeling ignored).
    • Include different perspectives if available (e.g., some players understood, others felt betrayed, developer response).
    • Conclude with the outcome or current status.
  • Target Audience:
    • Players of the specific game who are confused about the drama or missed the event.
    • Gamers in general who are interested in community dynamics and how live service games handle narrative/player agency.
    • People who see headlines about game controversies and want a deeper, unbiased explanation.

Content Idea 2: "Player Agency vs. The Narrative: When Game Stories Make Your Efforts Feel Pointless"

  • Concept: A broader discussion about a common pain point in live service or narratively evolving games: players feeling their actions don't truly impact the world or that the story is "on rails," invalidating their struggles.
  • Example Title: "Why Do Some Game Events Make Us Feel Powerless? (Helldivers 2, Destiny & The GM Problem)"
  • Content Focus:
    • Use the Helldivers 2 "Equality-On-Sea" situation as a prime example.
    • Discuss the role of "Game Masters" or developers in steering live narratives.
    • Explore the psychological impact on players when their efforts in a collective event seem predetermined or ultimately don't change an outcome.
    • Contrast with examples where player agency felt impactful.
    • Discuss the delicate balance developers face in telling a coherent story versus allowing genuine player-driven outcomes.
  • Target Audience:
    • Players of live-service games (e.g., Helldivers 2, Destiny 2, Warframe, MMOs).
    • Game design enthusiasts and aspiring developers.
    • Players who have experienced frustration over narrative choices in games they are invested in.

Content Idea 3: "ELI5: How [Complex Game Mechanic/System] Actually Works (And Why It's Causing Confusion)"

  • Concept: Simplifying complex game mechanics or systems that are core to player experience but often misunderstood, leading to frustration or incorrect assumptions (like the translation error mentioned for Helldivers 2).
  • Example Title: "ELI5: Helldivers 2's Galactic War & Major Orders – Are We Supposed To Fail Sometimes?"
  • Content Focus:
    • Identify a commonly misunderstood mechanic (e.g., contribution to global efforts, how success/failure is determined in large-scale events, complex crafting/modding systems).
    • Break it down in the simplest terms possible, using analogies if helpful.
    • Address common misconceptions directly (e.g., "Does liberating one district save the whole planet?").
    • Explain the intended design philosophy behind the mechanic, if discernible.
    • Highlight how misunderstandings (like translation errors or opaque UI) can lead to player frustration.
  • Target Audience:
    • Newer players to a game with complex systems.
    • Players who feel confused or overwhelmed by specific mechanics.
    • Anyone looking for a clear, concise explanation of how something works "under the hood" without jargon.

These ideas tap into the common desire for clarity around complex or emotionally charged situations within gaming communities, making them likely to gain traction.

Origin Reddit Post

r/outoftheloop

What's up with Chinese players boycotting Helldivers 2?

Posted by u/real_LNSS05/30/2025
There seems to be an influx of bad reviews coming from Helldivers 2 players in China. From the little I get it seems they were offended by a recent update? Recent Reviews: [https://i.imgur.c

Top Comments

u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/MrKyew
aside from this, the game gives 'major orders' (big gamewide challenges similar to this latest invasion) that are sometimes ultimately unachieveable and simply act as a tool to move the games
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/MrKyew
aside from this, the game gives 'major orders' (big gamewide challenges similar to this latest invasion) that are sometimes ultimately unachieveable and simply act as a tool to move the games
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/brperry
Helldivers 2 is a PvE game, the players are working together against a invading enemy faction. It is unlikely we’ll revisit Super earth anytime soon so they are functionally gone.
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/Alldakine_moodz104
This is a new event type where it’s multiple locations situated on the same planet. If you play on the Mega City Equality-On-Sea, you only contribute to Equality-On-Sea. Once a Mega City is l
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/Appropriate_Time_774
So the game gave players an objective but never actually made it achievable?
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/TheFreeBee
The invasion is by NPC monsters, right?
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/Thirdatarian
Is Helldivers PvE or was this a massive PvP push where the Equality-On-Sea players worked hard to repel the invading players? Also are the other five cities just lost entirely or will they be
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/Treadwheel
It's less a "victory meter" and more an "effective control of city" meter. When you're under siege, controlling the entire urban area doesnt mean you've won, it just means you're holding them
u/FeliciaTheFkinStrong
It's worth mentioning that additional context has been added in the mission select screen (with proper translation) which further clarifies that the mission is a 'defense', and that the city
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/Netsuko
This is the most petty gamer outrage in a while.
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/BraiseTheSun
This case is very much a translation issue. The bars this time aren't progress bars for the defense, but health bars for the cities. The objective is to simply hold them until the invasion en
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/RedditorDoc
There is no PvP in Helldivers. It is a cooperative game with friendly fire. Super Earth is under invasion by alien enemies from another civilization. The 5 cities are lost entirely as of now,
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Pollomonteros
From what I have seen the devs intended for the final battle to be on the capital but never counted on Chinese players refusing to give up lol , so now they are ignoring their progress and fo
u/douknowhouare
It's not meaningless, they are literally helping to win the event right now. The point is to hold the city until the alien fleet is defeated, which they are doing.
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/Milskidasith
*Eeeeeeh*. The defense meter is just a health bar for the city, the goal was to stop the invasion overall while holding as many cities as possible. Their efforts weren't meaningless because i
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/SnooCookies6588
This guy hell dives.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/CobwebMcCallum
The only achievable thing was holding the city. And the helldiver's brought the city from the brink of falling, to maximum liberated and are still upset.
u/Chagdoo
So basically they need to keep the % above a certain value until the event ends, in order to win?
u/Acreaul
Answer: One of the factions is currently invading Super Earth, and instead of being planet by planet it's city by city. One of the cities being invaded is essentially Shanghai? and as such th
u/Acreaul
I've not been playing myself but as I understand it the overall objective is to hold as many cities as possible until the invasion fleet is depleted. So city health bars are where the fleet i
u/Jagermeister4
This reminds me of the old school MMORPG Asherons Call. There was an event where monsters attacked an area. There were i think 6 servers in the game, each server having the same world but dif
u/Loopnova_
I thought the whole appeal of that game was how the community reacted in real time against the bad guys. If it’s being forced like the top comment describes, it’s antithetical to the whole po
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/Treadwheel
Eh, they should have tuned it better (by having enemy strength follow an S-curve over the final week), but if they designed the arc to end a certain way, throwing that out at the last moment
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/Milskidasith
No. Aliens were invading Earth, and the game gave players a health meter for each city, with the goal to protect as many cities as possible until the alien invasion was defeated. Defeating mo
u/CobwebMcCallum
That is the appeal. The city was essentially retaken. But it would never be liberated as the planet is under a global invasion. There will always be aliens attacking the city.
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio
u/brperry
It looks to have been a translation error, where in the english the bar says "% Held" but in the chinese it translates to "Defense success"
u/EMPlRES
Damn, lowkey a valid crash out. It really sucks when all your efforts are ultimately meaningless.
u/brperry
Its important to note, the illuminate invasion is all but defeated and both prosperity and Equality-on-sea still stand. So it was much ado about nothing.
u/TheLinerax
Yes, the current main objective (named Major Order in-game) for all Helldivers is to keep Super Earth in human control away from the invading Illuminates for 72 hours (currently 24 hours rema
u/brperry
Answer: The current event in Helldivers 2 is a defense of super earth. There are seven MEGACities that were to be defended, one of which is Equality-On-Sea which was geographically located in
u/classifiedspam
This excessive nationality pride is a hilarious and very sad thing at the same time.
u/AmateurZombie
Mrw there's a narrative in my game
u/Ouaouaron
> What were they going to do, write a splinter universe for one server? This is a question that should have come up in the initial planning stages of the event, and it seems like an obvio

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