Guide: Understanding 3D Printer Bed Flatness & CNC Finishes for Better Prints.

Opportunity Identified:

The user's uncertainty about the finish and flatness of a custom CNC-machined aluminum bed for their 3D printer ("I don't understand the line reflection. Maybe it's flat enough") shows that some enthusiasts investing in upgraded components might not fully grasp these concepts. Even though the community offered reassurance, the initial worry and confusion highlight the need for more accessible and clear information.

Product Suggestion:

An information resource, such as a detailed e-book, a comprehensive web guide, or a series of short video tutorials, specifically focused on:

  1. Understanding CNC Machining for 3D Printer Parts:

    • Common machining processes used for parts like printer beds (e.g., face milling, grinding).
    • How to visually identify different machining marks (e.g., fly cutter marks, end mill patterns) and what they mean.
    • Clear explanations of terms like "surface finish," "flatness," "parallelism," and "tolerance."
  2. Relating Machining Quality to 3D Printing Performance:

    • How surface finish and flatness affect first layer adhesion, print consistency, and the need for bed compensation.
    • What level of flatness is generally considered "good enough" for high-quality 3D printing.
    • When minor visual imperfections are acceptable and when they indicate a functional problem.
  3. DIY Assessment Techniques:

    • Simple, accessible methods for users to check the flatness of their bed at home (e.g., using a reliable straight edge and feeler gauges, a granite tile as a reference surface).
    • How to interpret the results of these DIY tests.
  4. Communicating with CNC Shops:

    • Basic questions to ask a CNC shop before placing an order (e.g., "What flatness tolerance can you achieve?").
    • Understanding quotes and specifications provided by shops.

Expected Benefit:

  • Empower Users: Helps 3D printing enthusiasts make more informed decisions when buying or commissioning custom machined parts.
  • Build Confidence: Reduces anxiety and uncertainty by providing the knowledge to self-assess part quality or understand reassurances from suppliers and the community.
  • Improve Troubleshooting: Assists users in better diagnosing print quality issues that might be related to the bed surface.
  • Monetization (for the creator): The e-book could be sold, the web guide could generate ad revenue or affiliate sales for tools (e.g., feeler gauges, straight edges), or it could serve as lead generation for a related service or product.
  • Reduce Returns/Disputes: Educated customers are less likely to dispute the quality of a part based on misunderstandings of normal manufacturing characteristics.

Origin Reddit Post

r/machinists

Is this ok?

Posted by u/Embarrassed-Stop-91906/01/2025
is this ok for my ratrig V core 4 Aluminium bed. I got this from a local CNC Business. i have'nt picked it up yet. I dont understand the line reflection. Maybe its flat enough for the 3d prin

Top Comments

u/kartul-kaalikas
Ratrig software will calibrate for imperfections in your printer bed. I have an old bed that has 0.8mm of play over the whole 500mm bed and printer calibrated everything out nicely. This is f
u/JaydeTheGreenJewel
An indicator dial would be better suited for the task than a straight edge, in my opinion.
u/Lork82
If you are interested, the shop most likely has, at minimum, a graded granite slab and a height gage. Ask for a dog and pony of the flatness, and feel free to act stupid. Tradesman love to th
u/For_roscoe
Np! You’ll be able to enjoy it for a long time. At most you may pick up a basic stone to knock off any high spots as it picks up dings along its lifetime.
u/G0DL33
Bruh. If i know anything...I don't...this is as good as you will get. Nasa would be stoked.
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thanks alot, i was worried but not i am actuall excited to pick it up
u/For_roscoe
I can almost guarantee that’s flatter than any print your printer will ever produce.
u/Mortlach2901
That's more than ok dude! It's probably the highest precision part on your printer!
u/piskle_kvicaly
Moreover, these sub-micron scratches can be quite easily polished & buffed out to get a nice mirror surface. But the actual longer-distance deviations from flatness can't be seen by bare
u/Wolfenhoof
I just checked and this plate should be flat within .1mm or .004”. They can easily demonstrate this at their shop to ease your concerns.
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thank you lork, i find your advice very helpful
u/Wolfenhoof
I just Googles this and now I know what a V Core 4 is lol. I see the plates advertised online are made from cast aluminum like mic6 (brand name) and this is machined. If you are worried abo
u/PoorestForm
When the cutter engages there are horizontal forces placed on it that are the reaction forces from cutting. No matter how rigid the machine is these forces deflect the cutter a little bit. As
u/Sakatard
This is beautiful
u/nitram9
When face-milling the mill cuts a series of circles as it travels across the work. This creates tiny quarter to half circle ridges. The space between each ridge gets tighter at the top and w
u/StrontiumDawn
Exactly this, I came to, tongue-in-cheek, call OP an asshole as well. Beautiful part.
u/Zack_ZK
That is overkill.
u/Knights_of_Rage
That's a nice looking bed. Hopefully they used tooling plate as it's really good for flatness and parallel off the shelf and machines well and remains stable. If you wanna check it's flat
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thanks! guess i should pick it up from the shop today
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thanks! guess i should pick it up from the shop today
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thank you🙏
u/Taborlin_the_great
What were the tolerances you specified when you ordered it?
u/Wolfenhoof
When I first read the title “is this ok” I thought, oh some guy asking if his awesome work is ok trying to get compliments, but then I kept reading and realized you were serious. Yes this lo
u/Chuck_Phuckzalot
Looks fine, those are normal machining marks from whatever facemill they used to cut it. You probably won't even be able to feel those lines.
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thank you lork, i find your advice very helpful
u/Wolfenhoof
When I first read the title “is this ok” I thought, oh some guy asking if his awesome work is ok trying to get compliments, but then I kept reading and realized you were serious. Yes this lo
u/RealZq8
Yea. This looks like a beautiful part tbh
u/Wolfenhoof
I just checked and this plate should be flat within .1mm or .004”. They can easily demonstrate this at their shop to ease your concerns.
u/RealZq8
Yea. This looks like a beautiful part tbh
u/Chuck_Phuckzalot
Looks fine, those are normal machining marks from whatever facemill they used to cut it. You probably won't even be able to feel those lines.
u/kartul-kaalikas
Ratrig software will calibrate for imperfections in your printer bed. I have an old bed that has 0.8mm of play over the whole 500mm bed and printer calibrated everything out nicely. This is f
u/Lork82
If you are interested, the shop most likely has, at minimum, a graded granite slab and a height gage. Ask for a dog and pony of the flatness, and feel free to act stupid. Tradesman love to th
u/For_roscoe
Np! You’ll be able to enjoy it for a long time. At most you may pick up a basic stone to knock off any high spots as it picks up dings along its lifetime.
u/theelous3
And to get maximum flatness from supports, you want to support on three bessel points :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airy_points#Bessel_points
u/Wolfenhoof
I just Googles this and now I know what a V Core 4 is lol. I see the plates advertised online are made from cast aluminum like mic6 (brand name) and this is machined. If you are worried abo
u/For_roscoe
I can almost guarantee that’s flatter than any print your printer will ever produce.
u/theelous3
To actually explain what you're seeing - Visible light has a wavelength of like 500 nanometers. What you're seeing is interactions with surface "imperfections" at around this scale. You can
u/Embarrassed-Stop-919
thanks alot, i was worried but not i am actuall excited to pick it up

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