u/E_Kristalin
I know they meant all. I know it's estimated at around 12 to 24 trillion dollars in minerals.
The proven reserves in Saudi Arabia are about 250 billion barrels of oil. if oil price is 100 do
u/kummer5peck
🎶Congo is the greatest country in the world 🎶
🎶All other countries are run by little girls 🎶
🎶The Congo is the #1 exposure of cobalt 🎶
🎶All other counties have inferior cobalt 🎶
u/ThisAfricanboy
I've heard of Rwanda supporting M23 rebels in the region. But what evidence is there of Tanzania and Uganda doing the same? Last I checked Tanzania had military personnel fighting the rebels
u/Tro1138
Until we run out of oil
u/not_lorne_malvo
In terms of range and potential monopoly on the market I’d argue Congo wins easily, they have such massive sources of so many vital resources, Saudi Arabia really just has oil and even there
u/ThisAfricanboy
I've heard of Rwanda supporting M23 rebels in the region. But what evidence is there of Tanzania and Uganda doing the same? Last I checked Tanzania had military personnel fighting the rebels
u/Mandatum_Correctus
Do you have a source?
u/auto98
I think any ratings from 2025 onwards have removed the nuclear bit: https://thegoodshoppingguide.com/how-we-rate/
u/Terranigmus
Most cobalt is used in refineries, could we stop the stupid phone battery discussion?
u/Hungry_Culture
In addition to what everyone else is saying about the location and extraction, tons of artisanal miners in the Congo are extracting cobalt for 14 hours a day, everyday of the week, for only u
u/ThisAfricanboy
I've heard of Rwanda supporting M23 rebels in the region. But what evidence is there of Tanzania and Uganda doing the same? Last I checked Tanzania had military personnel fighting the rebels
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
They have no control over the government. Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania are supporting rebels and stealing there resources.
u/auto98
I think any ratings from 2025 onwards have removed the nuclear bit: https://thegoodshoppingguide.com/how-we-rate/
u/Terranigmus
Most cobalt is used in refineries, could we stop the stupid phone battery discussion?
u/Terranigmus
Most cobalt is used in refineries, could we stop the stupid phone battery discussion?
u/not_lorne_malvo
In terms of range and potential monopoly on the market I’d argue Congo wins easily, they have such massive sources of so many vital resources, Saudi Arabia really just has oil and even there
u/SteveCastGames
Reducing scores because of nuclear power is pretty stupid.
u/E_Kristalin
I know they meant all. I know it's estimated at around 12 to 24 trillion dollars in minerals.
The proven reserves in Saudi Arabia are about 250 billion barrels of oil. if oil price is 100 do
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
I have proof for rwanda and uganda but yeah not for tanzania. I only have heard rumors of some of my tanzanians friends saying there are lots of tanzanian sumgglers getting resources from the
u/Yeangster
Cobalt isn’t that valuable, monetarily.
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/sizing-up-the-oil-market-vs-top-10-metal-markets-combined/
Cobalt wasnt even in the top 10 in 2022. It might be
u/HurryLongjumping4236
Probably the most overlooked human rights disaster in recent times. I highly recommend listening to this [podcast](https://youtu.be/RTrXk4geQFg?si=OOi9mGn-HDK5QN1-) on the topic if you haven'
u/Phantasmalicious
The concentration of cobalt per ton is very high in DRC. There are other places that have cobalt its just not AS profitable to mine it there. But the DRC only made around 14 billion last year
u/Phantasmalicious
The concentration of cobalt per ton is very high in DRC. There are other places that have cobalt its just not AS profitable to mine it there. But the DRC only made around 14 billion last year
u/ThisAfricanboy
I've heard of Rwanda supporting M23 rebels in the region. But what evidence is there of Tanzania and Uganda doing the same? Last I checked Tanzania had military personnel fighting the rebels
u/Yeangster
Cobalt isn’t that valuable, monetarily.
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/sizing-up-the-oil-market-vs-top-10-metal-markets-combined/
Cobalt wasnt even in the top 10 in 2022. It might be
u/Only_One_Kenobi
I basically started with this website, then started looking at their sources and kept reading up. https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-mobile-phones
Also did som
u/Mount_Atlantic
When they say the DRC's mineral wealth, they aren't saying *just* Cobalt. The point being made is that entirely mineral wealth of the DRC (all mineral and metals resources) is greater than th
u/Only_One_Kenobi
I basically started with this website, then started looking at their sources and kept reading up. https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-mobile-phones
Also did som
u/torn-ainbow
Wow. Congo must be a very affluent country, right. Right?
u/joergendahorse
Most of Saudi's oil does not sell at about 100 dollars per barrel, most sold for alot less.
Though yes, I agree with the premise of your point. The DRC won't be as wealthy as Saudi, regardle
u/Hungry_Culture
As someone who fills out CMRTs as part of their job, I just want to state that a lot of companies are obviously lying. A lot of responsible minerals trade forms are mindlessly check boxed by
u/Hungry_Culture
In addition to what everyone else is saying about the location and extraction, tons of artisanal miners in the Congo are extracting cobalt for 14 hours a day, everyday of the week, for only u
u/Hungry_Culture
As someone who fills out CMRTs as part of their job, I just want to state that a lot of companies are obviously lying. A lot of responsible minerals trade forms are mindlessly check boxed by
u/TriggeredPrivilege37
This is bad news
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/oct/12/phone-misery-children-congo-cobalt-mines-drc
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a46191927/congo
u/danielv123
Since its a mineral there isn't much that can be done in regards to its location of extraction.
We are rapidly transitioning away from cobalt based batteries though. NCM batteries is the pri
u/Phantasmalicious
The concentration of cobalt per ton is very high in DRC. There are other places that have cobalt its just not AS profitable to mine it there. But the DRC only made around 14 billion last year
u/joergendahorse
Most of Saudi's oil does not sell at about 100 dollars per barrel, most sold for alot less.
Though yes, I agree with the premise of your point. The DRC won't be as wealthy as Saudi, regardle
u/SteveCastGames
Reducing scores because of nuclear power is pretty stupid.
u/E_Kristalin
Oil is used in everything, cobalt is far more niche. It will never come anywhere close in scale, and therefore in wealth.
u/E_Kristalin
I assume mineral wealth excludes oil.
u/Only_One_Kenobi
In terms of mineral wealth DRC is richer than Saudi Arabia.
But, almost none of that wealth stays in the country. Thanks to companies arming both sides of the perpetual civil war so that the
u/E_Kristalin
I assume mineral wealth excludes oil.
u/not_lorne_malvo
In terms of range and potential monopoly on the market I’d argue Congo wins easily, they have such massive sources of so many vital resources, Saudi Arabia really just has oil and even there
u/kummer5peck
🎶Congo is the greatest country in the world 🎶
🎶All other countries are run by little girls 🎶
🎶The Congo is the #1 exposure of cobalt 🎶
🎶All other counties have inferior cobalt 🎶
u/Only_One_Kenobi
In terms of mineral wealth DRC is richer than Saudi Arabia.
But, almost none of that wealth stays in the country. Thanks to companies arming both sides of the perpetual civil war so that the
u/danielv123
Reserves aren't everything either - accessibility varies a lot in mining. Its not uncommon to find massive reserves of various interesting materials that pop up in the news but can never be e
u/auto98
I think any ratings from 2025 onwards have removed the nuclear bit: https://thegoodshoppingguide.com/how-we-rate/
u/TriggeredPrivilege37
This is bad news
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/oct/12/phone-misery-children-congo-cobalt-mines-drc
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a46191927/congo
u/Yeangster
Cobalt isn’t that valuable, monetarily.
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/sizing-up-the-oil-market-vs-top-10-metal-markets-combined/
Cobalt wasnt even in the top 10 in 2022. It might be
u/SlowishSheepherder
It's a mineral. It is mined, not produced. You can't just build a factory and make cobalt, you need to have natural-occuring cobalt deposits and mine that. The graph is a representation of co
u/Hungry_Culture
In addition to what everyone else is saying about the location and extraction, tons of artisanal miners in the Congo are extracting cobalt for 14 hours a day, everyday of the week, for only u
u/danielv123
Since its a mineral there isn't much that can be done in regards to its location of extraction.
We are rapidly transitioning away from cobalt based batteries though. NCM batteries is the pri
u/Beavshak
Given the proliferation of, and reliance on, lithium batteries I’m surprised at how few countries produce it. I don’t have an understanding of the total actual demand though. Anyone have any
u/SteveCastGames
Reducing scores because of nuclear power is pretty stupid.
u/danielv123
Since its a mineral there isn't much that can be done in regards to its location of extraction.
We are rapidly transitioning away from cobalt based batteries though. NCM batteries is the pri
u/danielv123
Since its a mineral there isn't much that can be done in regards to its location of extraction.
We are rapidly transitioning away from cobalt based batteries though. NCM batteries is the pri
u/HurryLongjumping4236
Probably the most overlooked human rights disaster in recent times. I highly recommend listening to this [podcast](https://youtu.be/RTrXk4geQFg?si=OOi9mGn-HDK5QN1-) on the topic if you haven'
u/weeksahead
Maybe it would be more valuable if there wasn’t a firehouse off the stuff coming out of the Congo while they are distracted by civil war and unable to steward their own resources.
u/Beavshak
Given the proliferation of, and reliance on, lithium batteries I’m surprised at how few countries produce it. I don’t have an understanding of the total actual demand though. Anyone have any
u/torn-ainbow
Wow. Congo must be a very affluent country, right. Right?
u/Mandatum_Correctus
Do you have a source?
u/Mandatum_Correctus
Do you have a source?
u/E_Kristalin
I assume mineral wealth excludes oil.
u/Mandatum_Correctus
Do you have a source?
u/Mount_Atlantic
When they say the DRC's mineral wealth, they aren't saying *just* Cobalt. The point being made is that entirely mineral wealth of the DRC (all mineral and metals resources) is greater than th
u/Hungry_Culture
As someone who fills out CMRTs as part of their job, I just want to state that a lot of companies are obviously lying. A lot of responsible minerals trade forms are mindlessly check boxed by
u/joergendahorse
Most of Saudi's oil does not sell at about 100 dollars per barrel, most sold for alot less.
Though yes, I agree with the premise of your point. The DRC won't be as wealthy as Saudi, regardle
u/kummer5peck
🎶Congo is the greatest country in the world 🎶
🎶All other countries are run by little girls 🎶
🎶The Congo is the #1 exposure of cobalt 🎶
🎶All other counties have inferior cobalt 🎶
u/TriggeredPrivilege37
This is bad news
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/oct/12/phone-misery-children-congo-cobalt-mines-drc
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a46191927/congo
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
They have no control over the government. Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania are supporting rebels and stealing there resources.
u/Terranigmus
Most cobalt is used in refineries, could we stop the stupid phone battery discussion?
u/Only_One_Kenobi
In terms of mineral wealth DRC is richer than Saudi Arabia.
But, almost none of that wealth stays in the country. Thanks to companies arming both sides of the perpetual civil war so that the
u/Only_One_Kenobi
I basically started with this website, then started looking at their sources and kept reading up. https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-mobile-phones
Also did som
u/E_Kristalin
Oil is used in everything, cobalt is far more niche. It will never come anywhere close in scale, and therefore in wealth.
u/HurryLongjumping4236
Probably the most overlooked human rights disaster in recent times. I highly recommend listening to this [podcast](https://youtu.be/RTrXk4geQFg?si=OOi9mGn-HDK5QN1-) on the topic if you haven'
u/Phantasmalicious
The concentration of cobalt per ton is very high in DRC. There are other places that have cobalt its just not AS profitable to mine it there. But the DRC only made around 14 billion last year
u/Only_One_Kenobi
In terms of mineral wealth DRC is richer than Saudi Arabia.
But, almost none of that wealth stays in the country. Thanks to companies arming both sides of the perpetual civil war so that the
u/Only_One_Kenobi
In terms of mineral wealth DRC is richer than Saudi Arabia.
But, almost none of that wealth stays in the country. Thanks to companies arming both sides of the perpetual civil war so that the
u/HurryLongjumping4236
Probably the most overlooked human rights disaster in recent times. I highly recommend listening to this [podcast](https://youtu.be/RTrXk4geQFg?si=OOi9mGn-HDK5QN1-) on the topic if you haven'
u/E_Kristalin
I know they meant all. I know it's estimated at around 12 to 24 trillion dollars in minerals.
The proven reserves in Saudi Arabia are about 250 billion barrels of oil. if oil price is 100 do
u/Beavshak
Thanks! I had looked up the where the world’s reserves of cobalt are located, and Australia for example has 15% of the world’s reserves, while producing only 2% of the current output. The DR
u/SteveCastGames
Reducing scores because of nuclear power is pretty stupid.
u/E_Kristalin
I know they meant all. I know it's estimated at around 12 to 24 trillion dollars in minerals.
The proven reserves in Saudi Arabia are about 250 billion barrels of oil. if oil price is 100 do
u/DaniilSan
I wonder how the plot would look if it wasn't counties of origin, but companies that actually mine it.
u/Beavshak
Given the proliferation of, and reliance on, lithium batteries I’m surprised at how few countries produce it. I don’t have an understanding of the total actual demand though. Anyone have any
u/torn-ainbow
Wow. Congo must be a very affluent country, right. Right?
u/Hungry_Culture
As someone who fills out CMRTs as part of their job, I just want to state that a lot of companies are obviously lying. A lot of responsible minerals trade forms are mindlessly check boxed by
u/Only_One_Kenobi
It's advisable to research where the minerals that make up your phone battery comes from.
Fairphone is pretty much the best.
Apple has improved a huge amount since switching to recycled ba
u/danielv123
Since its a mineral there isn't much that can be done in regards to its location of extraction.
We are rapidly transitioning away from cobalt based batteries though. NCM batteries is the pri
u/Mandatum_Correctus
Do you have a source?
u/Only_One_Kenobi
I basically started with this website, then started looking at their sources and kept reading up. https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-mobile-phones
Also did som
u/Terranigmus
Most cobalt is used in refineries, could we stop the stupid phone battery discussion?
u/Only_One_Kenobi
No, because if less people turned a blind eye, and more people actually made an effort to not buy products from companies behaving unethically those companies would be forced to change.
u/Only_One_Kenobi
I basically started with this website, then started looking at their sources and kept reading up. https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-mobile-phones
Also did som
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
They have no control over the government. Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania are supporting rebels and stealing there resources.
u/Only_One_Kenobi
It's advisable to research where the minerals that make up your phone battery comes from.
Fairphone is pretty much the best.
Apple has improved a huge amount since switching to recycled ba
u/E_Kristalin
I assume mineral wealth excludes oil.
u/E_Kristalin
I assume mineral wealth excludes oil.
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
They have no control over the government. Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania are supporting rebels and stealing there resources.
u/weeksahead
Maybe it would be more valuable if there wasn’t a firehouse off the stud coming out of the Congo while they are distracted by civil war and insane to steward their own resources.
u/not_lorne_malvo
In terms of range and potential monopoly on the market I’d argue Congo wins easily, they have such massive sources of so many vital resources, Saudi Arabia really just has oil and even there
u/Beavshak
Mining is a form of production, which goes beyond just extracting it from the earth, and in fact yes does typically require facilities to process. Hell the title of the graph is “Cobalt Produ
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
I have proof for rwanda and uganda but yeah not for tanzania. I only have heard rumors of some of my tanzanians friends saying there are lots of tanzanian sumgglers getting resources from the
u/Beavshak
Given the proliferation of, and reliance on, lithium batteries I’m surprised at how few countries produce it. I don’t have an understanding of the total actual demand though. Anyone have any
u/Mount_Atlantic
When they say the DRC's mineral wealth, they aren't saying *just* Cobalt. The point being made is that entirely mineral wealth of the DRC (all mineral and metals resources) is greater than th
u/E_Kristalin
Oil is used in everything, cobalt is far more niche. It will never come anywhere close in scale, and therefore in wealth.
u/auto98
I think any ratings from 2025 onwards have removed the nuclear bit: https://thegoodshoppingguide.com/how-we-rate/
u/Only_One_Kenobi
It's advisable to research where the minerals that make up your phone battery comes from.
Fairphone is pretty much the best.
Apple has improved a huge amount since switching to recycled ba
u/TriggeredPrivilege37
This is bad news
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/oct/12/phone-misery-children-congo-cobalt-mines-drc
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a46191927/congo
u/torn-ainbow
Wow. Congo must be a very affluent country, right. Right?
u/Only_One_Kenobi
It's advisable to research where the minerals that make up your phone battery comes from.
Fairphone is pretty much the best.
Apple has improved a huge amount since switching to recycled ba
u/TriggeredPrivilege37
This is bad news
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/oct/12/phone-misery-children-congo-cobalt-mines-drc
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a46191927/congo
u/E_Kristalin
Oil is used in everything, cobalt is far more niche. It will never come anywhere close in scale, and therefore in wealth.
u/torn-ainbow
Wow. Congo must be a very affluent country, right. Right?
u/Only_One_Kenobi
It's advisable to research where the minerals that make up your phone battery comes from.
Fairphone is pretty much the best.
Apple has improved a huge amount since switching to recycled ba
u/Yeangster
Cobalt isn’t that valuable, monetarily.
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/sizing-up-the-oil-market-vs-top-10-metal-markets-combined/
Cobalt wasnt even in the top 10 in 2022. It might be
u/Phantasmalicious
The concentration of cobalt per ton is very high in DRC. There are other places that have cobalt its just not AS profitable to mine it there. But the DRC only made around 14 billion last year
u/Yeangster
Cobalt isn’t that valuable, monetarily.
https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/sizing-up-the-oil-market-vs-top-10-metal-markets-combined/
Cobalt wasnt even in the top 10 in 2022. It might be
u/Beavshak
Given the proliferation of, and reliance on, lithium batteries I’m surprised at how few countries produce it. I don’t have an understanding of the total actual demand though. Anyone have any
u/Reasonable_Fold6492
They have no control over the government. Rwanda, Uganda and Tanzania are supporting rebels and stealing there resources.
u/HurryLongjumping4236
Probably the most overlooked human rights disaster in recent times. I highly recommend listening to this [podcast](https://youtu.be/RTrXk4geQFg?si=OOi9mGn-HDK5QN1-) on the topic if you haven'
u/ThisAfricanboy
I've heard of Rwanda supporting M23 rebels in the region. But what evidence is there of Tanzania and Uganda doing the same? Last I checked Tanzania had military personnel fighting the rebels
u/Mount_Atlantic
When they say the DRC's mineral wealth, they aren't saying *just* Cobalt. The point being made is that entirely mineral wealth of the DRC (all mineral and metals resources) is greater than th