IRS ends free Direct File; boosts private tax prep demand
The announced termination of the IRS's free Direct File program creates a significant void in tax preparation services for many Americans. This policy change will likely drive a substantial increase in demand for private tax preparation software, online services, and professional accountants. Marketing opportunities arise for companies like TurboTax, H&R Block, FreeTaxUSA, and local accounting firms to position themselves as the necessary alternative, offering convenience, expertise, and competitive pricing. The public's sentiment will shift from relying on a free government option to seeking out private solutions, making this a prime time for these businesses to acquire new customers.
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'I don't care about Direct File': IRS chief says agency plans to end free filing program
Posted by u/rezwenn•08/01/2025
Top Comments
u/korben2600
This. IRS Direct File was 100% free which then gave access to FileYourStateTaxes, also 100% free. Ending 100% free filing, federal and state, is no doubt being pushed by the tax filing softwa
u/Entire-Enthusiasm553
MAKE MICROTRANSACTIONS GREAT AGAIN
u/tommles
You're forgetting how that 1 trans person stole the cis woman's participation trophy. It was a hard fought battle having her go from 5th place to 5th place.
u/NathanCollier14
They're getting buckets of pennies this year. Fuck them.
u/onebadmousse
One pervasive myth is that the US sacrifices universal healthcare because they 'protect the world' with their armed forces.
It would cost the taxpayers *significantly* less to move to a soci
u/cowhand214
What’s amazing is this could be a political win for them if they supported and expanded the program. For years, there was talk on the right about simplifying the tax code and being able to ju
u/ew73
It's not even that. It's literally just Trump being an absolutely petty piece of shit and undoing everything Obama and Biden did, because they *dared* be more popular or effective than him.
u/Niceromancer
Most of us know, some are soo blinded by American exceptionalism that they cant conceive of the idea that America is anything but perfect.
u/Discordian_Junk
So, they have a tax on doing taxes? Dude, that's messed up.
u/insertbrackets
Obviously no country is perfect but problems like these are not problems as country as wealthy as the U.S. should have. It's just shameful.
u/Expensive_Panic_2738
Same. I lived in America for a while, and on a good day it was a huge mess. I can’t imagine any future for it now. It’s destroyed by corruption at a scale never before seen for America, and i
u/PresidentKraznov
What a coincidence! As it turns out, I no longer care about filing.
u/LordKwik
I'd argue the contrary, rub it in more and frequently. we should be demanding the same. our current system is unacceptable.
u/Papanaq
This is really a ploy for significant tax fuckery by people making a lot of money and claiming it as a tax free tip.
With all that is going on they have extra concern for service industry e
u/WileEPeyote
Yeah. The number of holidays/vacations I see my teammates in Europe take makes me pretty jealous. And I have a white collar job with halfway decent benefits.
u/FlametopFred
American exceptionalism never existed. A myth created by New York publishing, advertising, marketing and Hollywood.
u/insertbrackets
Obviously no country is perfect but problems like these are not problems as country as wealthy as the U.S. should have. It's just shameful.
u/vorg7
It's funny that in the era MAGA idolizes the top tax bracket was 90%. Bernie couldn't even dream of doing that nowadays.
u/ausgoals
Eh, it’s more that many Americans genuinely believe it’s a fair price to pay if it means the people they don’t like are hurt as much or more than them.
To many Americans, there’s nothing wor
u/asian_chihuahua
I protest by doing my taxes manually on my computer with the fillable PDFs.
When I'm done, I print out blanks and then fill them in by hand with a pen, and mail them in.
And yes, I also a
u/atwistofcitrus
I am supposed to pay money to file taxes?!!
u/u0126
Easy litmus test for this administration. Does it help the common man?
u/whatsthatguysname
But I need to vote for the party that punishes the 10 trans people in the country that use the wrong bathroom.
u/the_CombatWombat0
Turbo Tax has been lobbying Congress to not introduce a free tax filing system for years (because it would undercut their business). I bet their owner/CEO recently attended a Trump gala, or
u/Fit-Produce420
I pay them, but I don't CARE.
Also I have shit to lose so yeah I just pay someone to do it, I haven't qualified for free file in a while.
u/cowhand214
What’s amazing is this could be a political win for them if they supported and expanded the program. For years, there was talk on the right about simplifying the tax code and being able to ju
u/Muugumo
That's how countries are securing trade deals. They flatter him to the tits then make vague commitments to invest in the US.
u/winmace
In the UK I don't even think about my taxes, its all done for my by my employer
u/TheOriginalChode
Even worse... they already know what you owe
u/kreynolds26
It’s the dual aspect of poor education and poor wages so a lot of people can’t even afford to travel to other countries. Keep em locked in.
u/Lackluster_euphoria
Duh that's the American way! Has nothing to do with this at all:
* **Intuit (TurboTax)** has spent significantly on lobbying, including:
* Nearly $4 million in 2023 and again in 2024 spe
u/doxxingyourself
Oh he cares about it. He cares about it’s destruction.
u/brandalfthegreen
And blinded by their own bigotry
u/seniorfrito
I'd go further though. Yeah we know they don't care about the common man. But, this literally affects every tax paying citizen. They are literally saying "Yeah we don't want there to be a FRE
u/postoperativepain
What if we name it “Trump file” and give him credit.
“Thank you for creating this easy to file system President Trump. It was so smart of you to do this”
Problem solved?
u/Spare-Smile-758
This is a good idea for a thread or a podcast. ‘Know your trump-appointed hack of the week’ . A deep dive into background of appointees
u/Freud-Network
The rigid belief that only those on your team deserve empathy is at the core of conservatism. They've been indoctrinated to believe that some citizens are not "American," which makes it easy
u/Jimbomcdeans
>rort
A scam or fraud, especially involving the misappropriation of public money or resources.
TIL what rort is. What a word.
u/Wonderful_Signal_649
so just to clarify the insanity that is the us tax system. most employees receive their pay with the tax already deducted just like you described in uk. the employers have to provide the empl
u/Runkleford
This admin really goes out of it's way to fuck with it's citizens doesn't it?
u/Bugbread
They're not removing the ability to file for free, they're removing the free e-filing thing they rolled out last year. Which sucks, but you can still file for free using the normal forms, lik
u/vorg7
It's funny that in the era MAGA idolizes the top tax bracket was 90%. Bernie couldn't even dream of doing that nowadays.
u/Fun-Emu-1426
To be fair, one of the smartest tricks that was played on the American populist was making them stupider and stupider with each generation while camping up the liberty America rhetoric at the
u/kkapri23
No tax on tips really pisses me off. I have to pay tax on my income…if tips are under $600, there’s already no tax. Why does a person receiving tips get to keep more in their pocket than I do
u/LordKwik
I'd argue the contrary, rub it in more and frequently. we should be demanding the same. our current system is unacceptable.
u/ChanglingBlake
And that there is our biggest hurdle; getting all these old farts that were around during the Cold War, or that grew up in it, to accept the truth that what they know about socialism is wrong
u/SimiShittyProgrammer
I mean the 76 million + that voted for it suck too, and the assholes that don't even bother.
u/insertbrackets
Obviously no country is perfect but problems like these are not problems as country as wealthy as the U.S. should have. It's just shameful.
u/dangrullon87
TT donated an estimated $22 million to Trumps 2024 campaign... and a few million more to several congressional and house races too. Quid pro quo.
u/kebabsoup
I mean Americans are already taxed through tariffs. Then they have to pay to file their taxes, and then get taxed a second time. Then billionaires get yachts and they get nothing, healthcare
u/Freud-Network
The rigid belief that only those on your team deserve empathy is at the core of conservatism. They've been indoctrinated to believe that some citizens are not "American," which makes it easy
u/Wizard-of-pause
In Poland I just login in March, check if all is good and confirm. 10 minutes adventure.
u/kebabsoup
I mean Americans are already taxed through tariffs. Then they have to pay to file their taxes, and then get taxed a second time. Then billionaires get yachts and they get nothing, healthcare
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Watching European counterparts go on vacations for a month at a time while we beg for a day off 😭.
u/kebabsoup
I mean Americans are already taxed through tariffs. Then they have to pay to file their taxes, and then get taxed a second time. Then billionaires get yachts and they get nothing, healthcare
u/Korlus
To go a step further, the only correspondence I've ever had regarding tax has been to inform me I overpaid in previous years because I moved jobs and the calculations for annual salary ended
u/shaneh445
Half our population is also exceptionally stupid
u/m00fster
And the ones that are demanding change (MAGA) have it all backwards
u/ew73
It's not even that. It's literally just Trump being an absolutely petty piece of shit and undoing everything Obama and Biden did, because they *dared* be more popular or effective than him.
u/emsuperstar
Additionally, most Americans are closed off to how things work outside their country’s borders.
Let’s just keep cutting those education budgets! I’m sure there won’t be some negative extern
u/istasber
That's also an on brand litmus test. "Can we create new ways for private businesses to monetize the common man's pain/hardship?"
u/onebadmousse
If you think about it, the insurance model is just 'socialism' with extra steps anyway. Everyone pays into a pot, those that need it get to take from the pot. And the insurance companies keep
u/wheelfoot
He tried to tie them to himself. His supporters booed, so he stopped.
u/klaus_reckoning_1
Because one day they might also be rich
u/Freud-Network
Conservatives would eat a grocery bag of shit to force a liberal to eat a spoonful.
u/dangrullon87
TT donated an estimated $22 million to Trumps 2024 campaign... and a few million more to several congressional and house races too. Quid pro quo.
u/anarchy-NOW
It doesn't even have to be single-payer! Just universal healthcare in a hybrid public and private system already works great. So it's not even "socialism" like the American fascist pedo-enabl
u/Papanaq
This is really a ploy for significant tax fuckery by people making a lot of money and claiming it as a tax free tip.
With all that is going on they have extra concern for service industry e
u/bigdumb78910
Sounds like a scam, but FreeTaxUSA is a great piece of tax filing software. Free fed, $15/state.
Just in case people feel lost out there.
u/dangerbird2
paying a fee to file your taxes if you don't have complicated financials is a scam. that's why direct file became a thing in the first place
u/Logicalist
yeah let this be a lesson, when someone uses a generic relative term like "Great" ask for some details
u/fattymcfattzz
Republicans are crooks
u/anarchy-NOW
It doesn't even have to be single-payer! Just universal healthcare in a hybrid public and private system already works great. So it's not even "socialism" like the American fascist pedo-enabl
u/night_dude
The USA is such a fucking rort, man.
I come from a country with free public healthcare and an IRS equivalent that does most people's taxes for them. I've had several surgeries on various inj
u/lachlanhunt
I lived in Norway for a while and that made taxes so much easier. You basically never need to manually file unless you’ve got something special to claim or report that wasn’t already reported
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Yeah and it is important to point out (to my fellow American poors) even the most basic blue collar worker got this time extended off.
Meanwhile our blue collar workers are busy voting thei
u/SimiShittyProgrammer
I mean the 76 million + that voted for it suck too, and the assholes that don't even bother.
u/postoperativepain
What if we name it “Trump file” and give him credit.
“Thank you for creating this easy to file system President Trump. It was so smart of you to do this”
Problem solved?
u/ausgoals
Eh, it’s more that many Americans genuinely believe it’s a fair price to pay if it means the people they don’t like are hurt as much or more than them.
To many Americans, there’s nothing wor
u/RamenJunkie
But why?
u/seniorfrito
Well you don't have to rub it in... 😂
u/Logicalist
yeah let this be a lesson, when someone uses a generic relative term like "Great" ask for some details
u/wheelfoot
He tried to tie them to himself. His supporters booed, so he stopped.
u/edcrosay
We are exceptional at propaganda
u/ausgoals
Eh, it’s more that many Americans genuinely believe it’s a fair price to pay if it means the people they don’t like are hurt as much or more than them.
To many Americans, there’s nothing wor
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Watching European counterparts go on vacations for a month at a time while we beg for a day off 😭.
u/the_CombatWombat0
Turbo Tax has been lobbying Congress to not introduce a free tax filing system for years (because it would undercut their business). I bet their owner/CEO recently attended a Trump gala, or
u/Cube00
They'd need to start paying tax first.
u/FitzchivalryandMolly
The fucking stupidest thing is that the people most opposed to reigning in the excesses and exploitation of the obscenely wealthy are the poorest among us who would benefit the most
u/u0126
Easy litmus test for this administration. Does it help the common man?
u/B-Glasses
Why are these people just so casually evil?
u/nuclearmeltdown2015
They'll fuck with you back and audit you and ask for more paperwork just watch, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down
u/Freud-Network
Apples and oranges. Those aren't hypercapitalist hellholes that believe non-wealthy citizens are livestock who need to die swiftly after being bled dry.
u/PBRmy
Its true that technically they would be taking a free resource from every taxpaying US citizen. But rich people aren't using this resource in the first place - they pay accountants to prepare
u/ausgoals
Eh, it’s more that many Americans genuinely believe it’s a fair price to pay if it means the people they don’t like are hurt as much or more than them.
To many Americans, there’s nothing wor
u/night_dude
The USA is such a fucking rort, man.
I come from a country with free public healthcare and an IRS equivalent that does most people's taxes for them. I've had several surgeries on various inj
u/bigdumb78910
Sounds like a scam, but FreeTaxUSA is a great piece of tax filing software. Free fed, $15/state.
Just in case people feel lost out there.
u/ShrimpieAC
Because they know Americans won’t have time to take an entire day to figure out how to fill out their tax forms when they’re exhausted, sick, and can’t take a day off work.
u/Ciennas
And more genocidal war crimes than you can shake a Hague at!
u/shaneh445
Half our population is also exceptionally stupid
u/Spare-Smile-758
This is a good idea for a thread or a podcast. ‘Know your trump-appointed hack of the week’ . A deep dive into background of appointees
u/Korlus
To go a step further, the only correspondence I've ever had regarding tax has been to inform me I overpaid in previous years because I moved jobs and the calculations for annual salary ended
u/cowhand214
What’s amazing is this could be a political win for them if they supported and expanded the program. For years, there was talk on the right about simplifying the tax code and being able to ju
u/PBRmy
Its true that technically they would be taking a free resource from every taxpaying US citizen. But rich people aren't using this resource in the first place - they pay accountants to prepare
u/christian-mann
i'm convinced that if we had named the covid vaccines trump vaccines (because legitimately he did actually open a lot of doors for them) we'd be in a much better place today
u/Freud-Network
Conservatives would eat a grocery bag of shit to force a liberal to eat a spoonful.
u/PBRmy
Its true that technically they would be taking a free resource from every taxpaying US citizen. But rich people aren't using this resource in the first place - they pay accountants to prepare
u/Discordian_Junk
So, they have a tax on doing taxes? Dude, that's messed up.
u/Fuckthegopers
I don't know why you'd limit it to just this administration.
Every republican administration since the 80s has done *nothing* for the common man. If someone here thinks they have somewhere,
u/PresidentKraznov
What a coincidence! As it turns out, I no longer care about filing.
u/tommles
You're forgetting how that 1 trans person stole the cis woman's participation trophy. It was a hard fought battle having her go from 5th place to 5th place.
u/Freud-Network
Apples and oranges. Those aren't hypercapitalist hellholes that believe non-wealthy citizens are livestock who need to die swiftly after being bled dry.
u/BeenDragonn
Translation: I've taken a bribe from tax prep businesses
u/Bugbread
But why what?
Edit: I'm guessing you're asking "but why did they get rid of it?" It was a decision made by the Trump administration. Given what the article says, and knowing how the Trum
u/JefferyTheQuaxly
It’s not even about being indoctrinated, researchers have studied the phenomena and found that conservatives actually have different brain chemistry than liberals do, by and large, chiefly ar
u/Coondiggety
Just a little reminder that Republicans suck.
u/TheOriginalChode
Even worse... they already know what you owe
u/cowhand214
What’s amazing is this could be a political win for them if they supported and expanded the program. For years, there was talk on the right about simplifying the tax code and being able to ju
u/winmace
In the UK I don't even think about my taxes, its all done for my by my employer
u/SkinBintin
I had a couple of American friends that I played video games with online and it blew their mind how much paid leave i got a year and that my sick leave was essentially unlimited (beyond just
u/doxxingyourself
Oh he cares about it. He cares about it’s destruction.
u/FitzchivalryandMolly
The fucking stupidest thing is that the people most opposed to reigning in the excesses and exploitation of the obscenely wealthy are the poorest among us who would benefit the most
u/Distinct-Pie7647
We give millions to Israel everyday. They have free healthcare and college.
u/seniorfrito
I'd go further though. Yeah we know they don't care about the common man. But, this literally affects every tax paying citizen. They are literally saying "Yeah we don't want there to be a FRE
u/WileEPeyote
Yeah. The number of holidays/vacations I see my teammates in Europe take makes me pretty jealous. And I have a white collar job with halfway decent benefits.
u/FitzchivalryandMolly
The fucking stupidest thing is that the people most opposed to reigning in the excesses and exploitation of the obscenely wealthy are the poorest among us who would benefit the most
u/shableep
The goal, overall, is to make you desperate. Because desperate people are easier to control.
u/Niceromancer
Most of us know, some are soo blinded by American exceptionalism that they cant conceive of the idea that America is anything but perfect.
u/SkinBintin
I had a couple of American friends that I played video games with online and it blew their mind how much paid leave i got a year and that my sick leave was essentially unlimited (beyond just
u/Wonderful_Signal_649
so just to clarify the insanity that is the us tax system. most employees receive their pay with the tax already deducted just like you described in uk. the employers have to provide the empl
u/B-Glasses
Why are these people just so casually evil?
u/UndoubtedlyAColor
Sounds like a hell-hole!! Going against the old traditions of spending 2 weeks doing your taxes! What is the world coming to! /s
u/SkinBintin
I had a couple of American friends that I played video games with online and it blew their mind how much paid leave i got a year and that my sick leave was essentially unlimited (beyond just
u/Fun-Emu-1426
So at what point are we all going to agree that this administration is just trying to push the population to a point that they say we will take it no longer?
Cause like, surely even the usef
u/m00fster
Rising price inflation and no changes to wages could be seen as another tax on the poor, but it’s a bit more convoluted. It’s like reverse trickle down economics.
u/Organic_Witness345
And we sure as hell know that the appointees in this administration aren’t interested in helping the common man.
On this week’s episode of Know Your Trump-Appointed Hack…
On brand for virtu
u/Coondiggety
Just a little reminder that Republicans suck.
u/joeChump
Make America Greedy Af
u/Entire-Enthusiasm553
MAKE MICROTRANSACTIONS GREAT AGAIN
u/asian_chihuahua
I protest by doing my taxes manually on my computer with the fillable PDFs.
When I'm done, I print out blanks and then fill them in by hand with a pen, and mail them in.
And yes, I also a
u/Freud-Network
The rigid belief that only those on your team deserve empathy is at the core of conservatism. They've been indoctrinated to believe that some citizens are not "American," which makes it easy
u/whatsthatguysname
But I need to vote for the party that punishes the 10 trans people in the country that use the wrong bathroom.
u/PandiBong
In most European counties (if not all) the government does it for you free of charge... even if you make a fuck ton and have companies etc tax day is not stressful at all.
This is some clas
u/atwistofcitrus
I am supposed to pay money to file taxes?!!
u/RedBoxSquare
And they give multi-billion dollar grants to telecom, chip manufacturing, AI, and oil & gas companies that are already profitable.
u/m00fster
Rising price inflation and no changes to wages could be seen as another tax on the poor, but it’s a bit more convoluted. It’s like reverse trickle down economics.
u/QuickBenTen
This administration will provide a lot of episode content.
u/JefferyTheQuaxly
It’s not even about being indoctrinated, researchers have studied the phenomena and found that conservatives actually have different brain chemistry than liberals do, by and large, chiefly ar
u/asian_chihuahua
I protest by doing my taxes manually on my computer with the fillable PDFs.
When I'm done, I print out blanks and then fill them in by hand with a pen, and mail them in.
And yes, I also a
u/edcrosay
We are exceptional at propaganda
u/m00fster
And the ones that are demanding change (MAGA) have it all backwards
u/markth_wi
Yeah well, Americans get pounded day in and day out with permanent propaganda that right-wing, hard-right wing talking points, and then when they do stray to something modestly conservative t
u/Wizard-of-pause
In Poland I just login in March, check if all is good and confirm. 10 minutes adventure.
u/Specialist_Ad9073
That was a talking point to get votes, never a plan. The GOP leadership has been paid off by tax preparers for decades.
This is what is nuts about “reasonable republicans” they’ve been lied
u/Freud-Network
Conservatives would eat a grocery bag of shit to force a liberal to eat a spoonful.
u/edcrosay
We are exceptional at propaganda
u/Discordian_Junk
So, they have a tax on doing taxes? Dude, that's messed up.
u/ChanglingBlake
And that there is our biggest hurdle; getting all these old farts that were around during the Cold War, or that grew up in it, to accept the truth that what they know about socialism is wrong
u/ew73
It's not even that. It's literally just Trump being an absolutely petty piece of shit and undoing everything Obama and Biden did, because they *dared* be more popular or effective than him.
u/Entire-Enthusiasm553
MAKE MICROTRANSACTIONS GREAT AGAIN
u/Specialist_Ad9073
No, that’s exactly how Trickle Down Economics was supposed to work.
Just like No Child Left Behind was designed to make kids less educated.
Republican named laws are often the opposite of w
u/SirWEM
I would say most Americans in the US do. Most couldn’t care less whats going on in the world outside our shores.
Unless it suits a purpose politically i.e. whats happening in Gaza and Ukrai
u/Fuckthegopers
I don't know why you'd limit it to just this administration.
Every republican administration since the 80s has done *nothing* for the common man. If someone here thinks they have somewhere,
u/Makeshift5
This nation was settled by corporations. We exist here to feed money into corporations
u/TehWildMan_
That reminds me that I need to pay my 2024 taxes sometime before they're due.
Maybe later.
u/lachlanhunt
I lived in Norway for a while and that made taxes so much easier. You basically never need to manually file unless you’ve got something special to claim or report that wasn’t already reported
u/wheelfoot
He tried to tie them to himself. His supporters booed, so he stopped.
u/FitzchivalryandMolly
The fucking stupidest thing is that the people most opposed to reigning in the excesses and exploitation of the obscenely wealthy are the poorest among us who would benefit the most
u/Dank4Days
behind the bastards has gone over some of the big ones like rfk, elon, and peter thiel (not appointed but super influential to the administration)
u/JefferyTheQuaxly
It’s not even about being indoctrinated, researchers have studied the phenomena and found that conservatives actually have different brain chemistry than liberals do, by and large, chiefly ar
u/atwistofcitrus
I am supposed to pay money to file taxes?!!
u/Bugbread
They're not removing the ability to file for free, they're removing the free e-filing thing they rolled out last year. Which sucks, but you can still file for free using the normal forms, lik
u/asian_chihuahua
Interesting is one word for it, lol.
There are so many things about the US that are just screwed up and backwards. We are truly a government run by corporations and the rich, and our laws r
u/VVrayth
The likelihood that you'll screw something up is not low, because our tax code is convoluted in order to scare you into paying people who understand it.
u/Ciennas
And more genocidal war crimes than you can shake a Hague at!
u/dangerbird2
paying a fee to file your taxes if you don't have complicated financials is a scam. that's why direct file became a thing in the first place
u/Fun-Emu-1426
To be fair, one of the smartest tricks that was played on the American populist was making them stupider and stupider with each generation while camping up the liberty America rhetoric at the
u/Niceromancer
Most of us know, some are soo blinded by American exceptionalism that they cant conceive of the idea that America is anything but perfect.
u/jonstoppable
and in those times, massive public investments were made into the internet, space, infrastructure, housing, public health and education ..
now.. unless a billionaire backed company gets t
u/Bugbread
But why what?
Edit: I'm guessing you're asking "but why did they get rid of it?" It was a decision made by the Trump administration. Given what the article says, and knowing how the Trum
u/RoryJ
America: the biggest gacha Game ever
u/UndoubtedlyAColor
Sounds like a hell-hole!! Going against the old traditions of spending 2 weeks doing your taxes! What is the world coming to! /s
u/Janezey
>What else can I do though?
Use free fillable forms?
>Doing taxes online and electronically should be free for all citizens.
It is. Free fillable forms.
u/seniorfrito
Well you don't have to rub it in... 😂
u/edcrosay
We are exceptional at propaganda
u/RamenJunkie
But why?
u/QuickBenTen
This administration will provide a lot of episode content.
u/atwistofcitrus
I am supposed to pay money to file taxes?!!
u/Distinct-Pie7647
We give millions to Israel everyday. They have free healthcare and college.
u/shaneh445
Half our population is also exceptionally stupid
u/RoryJ
America: the biggest gacha Game ever
u/RamenJunkie
But why?
u/CherryLongjump1989
Throw his ass in prison when this is all over.
u/onebadmousse
One pervasive myth is that the US sacrifices universal healthcare because they 'protect the world' with their armed forces.
It would cost the taxpayers *significantly* less to move to a soci
u/-ReadingBug-
And when you search for alternatives and of course immediately see the complicity, then tell others, they refuse to look and instead accuse you of purity testing or withholding your Kamala vo
u/seniorfrito
I'd go further though. Yeah we know they don't care about the common man. But, this literally affects every tax paying citizen. They are literally saying "Yeah we don't want there to be a FRE
u/Organic_Witness345
And we sure as hell know that the appointees in this administration aren’t interested in helping the common man.
On this week’s episode of Know Your Trump-Appointed Hack…
On brand for virtu
u/elchurnerista
Thank God for the open source project whistleblower: https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file
u/dangrullon87
TT donated an estimated $22 million to Trumps 2024 campaign... and a few million more to several congressional and house races too. Quid pro quo.
u/insertbrackets
Obviously no country is perfect but problems like these are not problems as country as wealthy as the U.S. should have. It's just shameful.
u/green_gold_purple
Cool?
u/acelaya35
No no, not this admin, Republicans in general. Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Mayors, Republican city council members, they are all out to get theirs and fuck anyone i
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Yeah and it is important to point out (to my fellow American poors) even the most basic blue collar worker got this time extended off.
Meanwhile our blue collar workers are busy voting thei
u/fruchle
also, a good podcast to help weightloss.
I know I'd lose my appetite if I was better informed on this.
u/Bugbread
They're not removing the ability to file for free, they're removing the free e-filing thing they rolled out last year. Which sucks, but you can still file for free using the normal forms, lik
u/CherryLongjump1989
Throw his ass in prison when this is all over.
u/Cube00
Zuck needs his doomsday bucket
u/UndoubtedlyAColor
Sounds like a hell-hole!! Going against the old traditions of spending 2 weeks doing your taxes! What is the world coming to! /s
u/night_dude
The USA is such a fucking rort, man.
I come from a country with free public healthcare and an IRS equivalent that does most people's taxes for them. I've had several surgeries on various inj
u/Muugumo
That's how countries are securing trade deals. They flatter him to the tits then make vague commitments to invest in the US.
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Yeah and it is important to point out (to my fellow American poors) even the most basic blue collar worker got this time extended off.
Meanwhile our blue collar workers are busy voting thei
u/Specialist_Ad9073
No, that’s exactly how Trickle Down Economics was supposed to work.
Just like No Child Left Behind was designed to make kids less educated.
Republican named laws are often the opposite of w
u/acelaya35
No no, not this admin, Republicans in general. Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Mayors, Republican city council members, they are all out to get theirs and fuck anyone i
u/onebadmousse
If you think about it, the insurance model is just 'socialism' with extra steps anyway. Everyone pays into a pot, those that need it get to take from the pot. And the insurance companies keep
u/fruchle
also, a good podcast to help weightloss.
I know I'd lose my appetite if I was better informed on this.
u/winmace
In the UK I don't even think about my taxes, its all done for my by my employer
u/RedBoxSquare
And they give multi-billion dollar grants to telecom, chip manufacturing, AI, and oil & gas companies that are already profitable.
u/LordKwik
I'd argue the contrary, rub it in more and frequently. we should be demanding the same. our current system is unacceptable.
u/tommles
You're forgetting how that 1 trans person stole the cis woman's participation trophy. It was a hard fought battle having her go from 5th place to 5th place.
u/Odd-Attention-2127
I'm ignorant of this, so don't take me the wrong way. What practical use is it to post this, especially when IRS head has said they're going to stop the direct filing the program?
u/Horsetoothbrush
"I don't care about anyone other than myself."
FTFY
u/kebabsoup
I mean Americans are already taxed through tariffs. Then they have to pay to file their taxes, and then get taxed a second time. Then billionaires get yachts and they get nothing, healthcare
u/2wice
The US citizen is complicit in creating a rent seeker society, good luck clawing back from that.
u/Logicalist
yeah let this be a lesson, when someone uses a generic relative term like "Great" ask for some details
u/Odd-Attention-2127
I'm ignorant of this, so don't take me the wrong way. What practical use is it to post this, especially when IRS head has said they're going to stop the direct filing the program?
u/jimgolgari
This is the part that makes me want to scream! The reason a lot of Americans fantasize about some idyllic version of post-war America is because MOST workers got a fair wage and the rich paid
u/Wonderful_Signal_649
so just to clarify the insanity that is the us tax system. most employees receive their pay with the tax already deducted just like you described in uk. the employers have to provide the empl
u/fattymcfattzz
Republicans are crooks
u/SirWEM
I would say most Americans in the US do. Most couldn’t care less whats going on in the world outside our shores.
Unless it suits a purpose politically i.e. whats happening in Gaza and Ukrai
u/acelaya35
No no, not this admin, Republicans in general. Republican senators, Republican governors, Republican Mayors, Republican city council members, they are all out to get theirs and fuck anyone i
u/QuickBenTen
This administration will provide a lot of episode content.
u/Coondiggety
Just a little reminder that Republicans suck.
u/BeenDragonn
Translation: I've taken a bribe from tax prep businesses
u/PresidentKraznov
What a coincidence! As it turns out, I no longer care about filing.
u/Fun-Emu-1426
So at what point are we all going to agree that this administration is just trying to push the population to a point that they say we will take it no longer?
Cause like, surely even the usef
u/Fun-Emu-1426
So at what point are we all going to agree that this administration is just trying to push the population to a point that they say we will take it no longer?
Cause like, surely even the usef
u/realribsnotmcfibs
Watching European counterparts go on vacations for a month at a time while we beg for a day off 😭.
u/Dank4Days
behind the bastards has gone over some of the big ones like rfk, elon, and peter thiel (not appointed but super influential to the administration)
u/emsuperstar
Additionally, most Americans are closed off to how things work outside their country’s borders.
Let’s just keep cutting those education budgets! I’m sure there won’t be some negative extern
u/Runkleford
This admin really goes out of it's way to fuck with it's citizens doesn't it?
u/Jimbomcdeans
>rort
A scam or fraud, especially involving the misappropriation of public money or resources.
TIL what rort is. What a word.
u/m00fster
And the ones that are demanding change (MAGA) have it all backwards
u/Wizard-of-pause
In Poland I just login in March, check if all is good and confirm. 10 minutes adventure.
u/RoryJ
America: the biggest gacha Game ever
u/Specialist_Ad9073
That was a talking point to get votes, never a plan. The GOP leadership has been paid off by tax preparers for decades.
This is what is nuts about “reasonable republicans” they’ve been lied
u/u0126
Easy litmus test for this administration. Does it help the common man?
u/ew73
It's not even that. It's literally just Trump being an absolutely petty piece of shit and undoing everything Obama and Biden did, because they *dared* be more popular or effective than him.
u/dangerbird2
paying a fee to file your taxes if you don't have complicated financials is a scam. that's why direct file became a thing in the first place
u/Dank4Days
behind the bastards has gone over some of the big ones like rfk, elon, and peter thiel (not appointed but super influential to the administration)
u/Distinct-Pie7647
We give millions to Israel everyday. They have free healthcare and college.
u/Papanaq
This is really a ploy for significant tax fuckery by people making a lot of money and claiming it as a tax free tip.
With all that is going on they have extra concern for service industry e
u/Runkleford
This admin really goes out of it's way to fuck with it's citizens doesn't it?
u/FesteringNeonDistrac
Why is every one of these guys some boss hogg looking motherfucker?
u/Coondiggety
Just a little reminder that Republicans suck.
u/HMJebus
Sounds like paying to pay taxes...
u/korben2600
This. IRS Direct File was 100% free which then gave access to FileYourStateTaxes, also 100% free. Ending 100% free filing, federal and state, is no doubt being pushed by the tax filing softwa
u/joeChump
Make America Greedy Af
u/m00fster
And the ones that are demanding change (MAGA) have it all backwards
u/klaus_reckoning_1
Because one day they might also be rich
u/Fuckthegopers
I don't know why you'd limit it to just this administration.
Every republican administration since the 80s has done *nothing* for the common man. If someone here thinks they have somewhere,
u/B-Glasses
Why are these people just so casually evil?
u/lachlanhunt
I lived in Norway for a while and that made taxes so much easier. You basically never need to manually file unless you’ve got something special to claim or report that wasn’t already reported
u/postoperativepain
What if we name it “Trump file” and give him credit.
“Thank you for creating this easy to file system President Trump. It was so smart of you to do this”
Problem solved?
u/kkapri23
No tax on tips really pisses me off. I have to pay tax on my income…if tips are under $600, there’s already no tax. Why does a person receiving tips get to keep more in their pocket than I do
u/Logicalist
yeah let this be a lesson, when someone uses a generic relative term like "Great" ask for some details
u/Distinct-Pie7647
We give millions to Israel everyday. They have free healthcare and college.
u/jonstoppable
and in those times, massive public investments were made into the internet, space, infrastructure, housing, public health and education ..
now.. unless a billionaire backed company gets t
u/PandiBong
In most European counties (if not all) the government does it for you free of charge... even if you make a fuck ton and have companies etc tax day is not stressful at all.
This is some clas
u/christian-mann
i'm convinced that if we had named the covid vaccines trump vaccines (because legitimately he did actually open a lot of doors for them) we'd be in a much better place today
u/FlametopFred
American exceptionalism never existed. A myth created by New York publishing, advertising, marketing and Hollywood.
u/istasber
That's also an on brand litmus test. "Can we create new ways for private businesses to monetize the common man's pain/hardship?"
u/kkapri23
No tax on tips really pisses me off. I have to pay tax on my income…if tips are under $600, there’s already no tax. Why does a person receiving tips get to keep more in their pocket than I do
u/RedBoxSquare
And they give multi-billion dollar grants to telecom, chip manufacturing, AI, and oil & gas companies that are already profitable.
u/2wice
Looking from the outside in, your infrastructure looks in just as shit condition as ours.
In Africa.
u/elchurnerista
Thank God for the open source project whistleblower: https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file
u/istasber
That's also an on brand litmus test. "Can we create new ways for private businesses to monetize the common man's pain/hardship?"
u/-GenghisJohn-
No, the Billionaires get a nice tax cut.
u/fattymcfattzz
Republicans are crooks
u/ew73
It legitimately has a chance to work, yes.
u/2wice
Looking from the outside in, your infrastructure looks in just as shit condition as ours.
In Africa.
u/SpaceC0wboyX
Wait. you guys were paying taxes?
u/vorg7
It's funny that in the era MAGA idolizes the top tax bracket was 90%. Bernie couldn't even dream of doing that nowadays.
u/Jimbomcdeans
>rort
A scam or fraud, especially involving the misappropriation of public money or resources.
TIL what rort is. What a word.
u/MyceliumWitchOHyphae
And they don’t have staff…so…just file something who cares if it’s accurate
u/christian-mann
i'm convinced that if we had named the covid vaccines trump vaccines (because legitimately he did actually open a lot of doors for them) we'd be in a much better place today
u/Fun-Emu-1426
To be fair, one of the smartest tricks that was played on the American populist was making them stupider and stupider with each generation while camping up the liberty America rhetoric at the
u/Specialist_Ad9073
No, that’s exactly how Trickle Down Economics was supposed to work.
Just like No Child Left Behind was designed to make kids less educated.
Republican named laws are often the opposite of w
u/shableep
The goal, overall, is to make you desperate. Because desperate people are easier to control.
u/Freud-Network
Apples and oranges. Those aren't hypercapitalist hellholes that believe non-wealthy citizens are livestock who need to die swiftly after being bled dry.
u/m00fster
Rising price inflation and no changes to wages could be seen as another tax on the poor, but it’s a bit more convoluted. It’s like reverse trickle down economics.
u/Odd-Attention-2127
I'm ignorant of this, so don't take me the wrong way. What practical use is it to post this, especially when IRS head has said they're going to stop the direct filing the program?
u/Bugbread
But why what?
Edit: I'm guessing you're asking "but why did they get rid of it?" It was a decision made by the Trump administration. Given what the article says, and knowing how the Trum
u/FesteringNeonDistrac
Why is every one of these guys some boss hogg looking motherfucker?
u/anarchy-NOW
It doesn't even have to be single-payer! Just universal healthcare in a hybrid public and private system already works great. So it's not even "socialism" like the American fascist pedo-enabl
u/CherryLongjump1989
Throw his ass in prison when this is all over.
u/Quijanoth
From the inside, and having easy access to reliable information about Africa, it isn't.
u/onebadmousse
If you think about it, the insurance model is just 'socialism' with extra steps anyway. Everyone pays into a pot, those that need it get to take from the pot. And the insurance companies keep
u/tommles
You're forgetting how that 1 trans person stole the cis woman's participation trophy. It was a hard fought battle having her go from 5th place to 5th place.
u/asian_chihuahua
I know it's small and dumb and won't change anything. What else can I do though? I'm not going to pay someone to do my taxes.
Doing taxes online and electronically should be free for all ci
u/Ciennas
And more genocidal war crimes than you can shake a Hague at!
u/PresidentKraznov
What a coincidence! As it turns out, I no longer care about filing.
u/whatsthatguysname
But I need to vote for the party that punishes the 10 trans people in the country that use the wrong bathroom.
u/ew73
It legitimately has a chance to work, yes.
u/kreynolds26
It’s the dual aspect of poor education and poor wages so a lot of people can’t even afford to travel to other countries. Keep em locked in.
u/whatsthatguysname
But I need to vote for the party that punishes the 10 trans people in the country that use the wrong bathroom.
u/CherryLongjump1989
Throw his ass in prison when this is all over.
u/ShrimpieAC
Because they know Americans won’t have time to take an entire day to figure out how to fill out their tax forms when they’re exhausted, sick, and can’t take a day off work.
u/ShrimpieAC
Because they know Americans won’t have time to take an entire day to figure out how to fill out their tax forms when they’re exhausted, sick, and can’t take a day off work.
u/seniorfrito
Well you don't have to rub it in... 😂
u/fruchle
also, a good podcast to help weightloss.
I know I'd lose my appetite if I was better informed on this.
u/klaus_reckoning_1
Because one day they might also be rich
u/2wice
Looking from the outside in, your infrastructure looks in just as shit condition as ours.
In Africa.
u/doxxingyourself
Oh he cares about it. He cares about it’s destruction.
u/Muugumo
That's how countries are securing trade deals. They flatter him to the tits then make vague commitments to invest in the US.
u/Specialist_Ad9073
That was a talking point to get votes, never a plan. The GOP leadership has been paid off by tax preparers for decades.
This is what is nuts about “reasonable republicans” they’ve been lied
u/PandiBong
In most European counties (if not all) the government does it for you free of charge... even if you make a fuck ton and have companies etc tax day is not stressful at all.
This is some clas
u/asian_chihuahua
I protest by doing my taxes manually on my computer with the fillable PDFs.
When I'm done, I print out blanks and then fill them in by hand with a pen, and mail them in.
And yes, I also a
u/Fit-Produce420
I don't care about paying taxes.
Checkmate.
u/derpholeloophole
Most people know it. We are up against the bully paradox. It's a bit of a dramatic example tbh but it fits. If you're holding your last dollar and someone steals a bit of it, to solve the pro
u/doxxingyourself
Oh he cares about it. He cares about it’s destruction.
u/RedBoxSquare
And they give multi-billion dollar grants to telecom, chip manufacturing, AI, and oil & gas companies that are already profitable.
u/the_CombatWombat0
Turbo Tax has been lobbying Congress to not introduce a free tax filing system for years (because it would undercut their business). I bet their owner/CEO recently attended a Trump gala, or
u/emsuperstar
Additionally, most Americans are closed off to how things work outside their country’s borders.
Let’s just keep cutting those education budgets! I’m sure there won’t be some negative extern
u/Korlus
To go a step further, the only correspondence I've ever had regarding tax has been to inform me I overpaid in previous years because I moved jobs and the calculations for annual salary ended
u/2wice
Looking from the outside in, your infrastructure looks in just as shit condition as ours.
In Africa.
u/FesteringNeonDistrac
Why is every one of these guys some boss hogg looking motherfucker?
u/m00fster
Rising price inflation and no changes to wages could be seen as another tax on the poor, but it’s a bit more convoluted. It’s like reverse trickle down economics.
u/BeenDragonn
Translation: I've taken a bribe from tax prep businesses
u/bigdumb78910
Sounds like a scam, but FreeTaxUSA is a great piece of tax filing software. Free fed, $15/state.
Just in case people feel lost out there.
u/korben2600
This. IRS Direct File was 100% free which then gave access to FileYourStateTaxes, also 100% free. Ending 100% free filing, federal and state, is no doubt being pushed by the tax filing softwa
u/night_dude
The USA is such a fucking rort, man.
I come from a country with free public healthcare and an IRS equivalent that does most people's taxes for them. I've had several surgeries on various inj
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u/TheOriginalChode
Even worse... they already know what you owe
u/Runkleford
This admin really goes out of it's way to fuck with it's citizens doesn't it?
u/shableep
The goal, overall, is to make you desperate. Because desperate people are easier to control.
u/Lackluster_euphoria
Duh that's the American way! Has nothing to do with this at all:
* **Intuit (TurboTax)** has spent significantly on lobbying, including:
* Nearly $4 million in 2023 and again in 2024 spe
u/Ciennas
And more genocidal war crimes than you can shake a Hague at!
u/FlametopFred
American exceptionalism never existed. A myth created by New York publishing, advertising, marketing and Hollywood.
u/u0126
Easy litmus test for this administration. Does it help the common man?
u/ew73
It legitimately has a chance to work, yes.
u/WileEPeyote
Yeah. The number of holidays/vacations I see my teammates in Europe take makes me pretty jealous. And I have a white collar job with halfway decent benefits.
u/Spare-Smile-758
This is a good idea for a thread or a podcast. ‘Know your trump-appointed hack of the week’ . A deep dive into background of appointees
u/jonstoppable
and in those times, massive public investments were made into the internet, space, infrastructure, housing, public health and education ..
now.. unless a billionaire backed company gets t
u/onebadmousse
One pervasive myth is that the US sacrifices universal healthcare because they 'protect the world' with their armed forces.
It would cost the taxpayers *significantly* less to move to a soci
u/2kWik
kris kingle lookin ass
u/joeChump
Make America Greedy Af
u/FlametopFred
American exceptionalism never existed. A myth created by New York publishing, advertising, marketing and Hollywood.
u/shableep
The goal, overall, is to make you desperate. Because desperate people are easier to control.
u/Organic_Witness345
And we sure as hell know that the appointees in this administration aren’t interested in helping the common man.
On this week’s episode of Know Your Trump-Appointed Hack…
On brand for virtu
u/SirWEM
I would say most Americans in the US do. Most couldn’t care less whats going on in the world outside our shores.
Unless it suits a purpose politically i.e. whats happening in Gaza and Ukrai
u/Niceromancer
Most of us know, some are soo blinded by American exceptionalism that they cant conceive of the idea that America is anything but perfect.
u/elchurnerista
Thank God for the open source project whistleblower: https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file
u/Discordian_Junk
So, they have a tax on doing taxes? Dude, that's messed up.
u/spicypixel
It’s interesting looking in from outside the USA and seeing the system.
u/ChanglingBlake
And that there is our biggest hurdle; getting all these old farts that were around during the Cold War, or that grew up in it, to accept the truth that what they know about socialism is wrong
u/kreynolds26
It’s the dual aspect of poor education and poor wages so a lot of people can’t even afford to travel to other countries. Keep em locked in.
u/vorg7
It's funny that in the era MAGA idolizes the top tax bracket was 90%. Bernie couldn't even dream of doing that nowadays.
u/B-Glasses
Why are these people just so casually evil?