New Australian ID/Age Checks Drive Demand for Digital Verification Tech.

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Face age and ID checks? Using the internet in Australia is about to fundamentally change

Posted by u/vriska1•07/21/2025

Top Comments

u/vriska1

Likely this will end up delayed.

u/not_the_fox

There is no coincidence. Conservative politicians have been coordinating across the anglosphere for about a decade now to try and do this.

u/LegateLaurie

Pornhub is likely to be blocked in Australia as it is in some US states. Pornhub knows there's no way to comply with these measures without putting users massively at risk (particularly if yo

u/kozyko

And hookers

u/-_-Edit_Deleted-_-

Fake ID business bout to boom.

u/annie-ajuwocken-1984

Actually, just join a political party. These laws are surprisingly specific in politicians getting an exception.

u/wintermute_13

Great way to minimize a site whose sole reason for existence is to harass my people into suicide. "Don't like" Fucking please. We're not children refusing our brocoli.

u/nutcrackr

Looks like I'll not be using a lot of sites after December.

u/No_Issue_7023

if you go with something like the second method I suggested there is nothing to squirrel away, unless they build it in a way to do so. I was just saying it’s technically possible to build it

u/tigger994

Back when we had Napster and isps telling media companies to go jump.

u/Interesting-Doctor-4

Back in my day we could...

u/FactoryProgram

Let's make a 2nd internet!

u/LegateLaurie

Just barely

u/DiscussionRemarkable

Look. I'm transgender too. And I don't agree with the EFF's stance on that particular issue. But what is the alternative here? There is a potential future where you and I are not able to spea

u/FactoryProgram

Let's make a 2nd internet!

u/DiscussionRemarkable

Look. I'm transgender too. And I don't agree with the EFF's stance on that particular issue. But what is the alternative here? There is a potential future where you and I are not able to spea

u/Marco-YES

They are not.

u/ErinDotEngineer

And so it spreads. We just saw this from the UK and now it is spreading to Australia. NZ would seem to be next. And again, nothing says freedom like the need to prove you are over 18, by p

u/kawaiipikachu86

Labor's absolutely clueless, Liberals all too willing to help push Murdochs agenda.

u/Marco-YES

Australia is run by a centre left government.

u/jacobp100

We have something similar coming out with the W3C digital id stuff. But the ID verifier does know what site is requesting the data

u/vriska1

Likely this will end up delayed.

u/Friggin_Grease

And hookers

u/LegateLaurie

Hardly any major party in any country opposes these laws. A lot of politicians don't understand or don't care about the risks, they don't like the internet and they want it restricted.

u/tigger994

Back when we had Napster and isps telling media companies to go jump.

u/wintermute_13

Thanks. But I don't think anyone can stop the US government from doing that. EFF is directly facilitating the hunting and intimidation of us, right now!

u/Marco-YES

Australia is run by a centre left government.

u/not_the_fox

Conservative as in not classically liberal not necessarily rightist.

u/DiscussionRemarkable

Look. I'm transgender too. And I don't agree with the EFF's stance on that particular issue. But what is the alternative here? There is a potential future where you and I are not able to spea

u/TheRamblingPeacock

That’s my plan.

u/twizx3

Ngl privacy should take a backseat when the internet is actively dismantling entire societies

u/vriska1

Likely this will end up delayed.

u/Proud-Judgment5115

I miss the early days of the Internet; when it was like the Wild West.

u/No_Issue_7023

It can be done without linking the two, it’s just that the gov doesn’t want to do that because this is part of a broader plan to de-anonymise the internet piece by piece. Issuing a blind to

u/jacobp100

We have something similar coming out with the W3C digital id stuff. But the ID verifier does know what site is requesting the data

u/skwyckl

It'll be dead for anybody in the next 5-10 years (look around at other nations: UK, US, Switzerland, Europe in general – with its chat scanning law, etc.). This is a global plan of authoritar

u/Friggin_Grease

And hookers

u/Latakerni21377

This is country level, instagram isn't going to do it on their own. This will change nothing, vpn providers will just rake in profits from all age groups. (like, I am 30 but fuck you if you

u/wintermute_13

Great way to minimize a site whose sole reason for existence is to harass my people into suicide. "Don't like" Fucking please. We're not children refusing our brocoli.

u/wintermute_13

Every time I bring this up, I get massively down voted.

u/IthinkIllthink

I’m thinking is also like fire crackers

u/Kazer67

Already made

u/Marco-YES

Australia is run by a centre left government.

u/jcunews1

Now, it's government go wild - faulting their d##k - showing everyone else that, they're not in the right mind.

u/not_the_fox

There is no coincidence. Conservative politicians have been coordinating across the anglosphere for about a decade now to try and do this.

u/carlbandit

Shits already started on Reddit for the UK. Can’t even click on most peoples profiles now without ID as most are classed as NSFW Old.reddit still works for desktop to skip it but doesn’t hel

u/[deleted]

[deleted]

u/RiderLibertas

This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with losing your anonymity online.

u/IthinkIllthink

I’m thinking is also like fire crackers

u/not_the_fox

Conservative as in not classically liberal not necessarily rightist.

u/annie-ajuwocken-1984

Actually, just join a political party. These laws are surprisingly specific in politicians getting an exception.

u/techbear72

With blackjack

u/jcunews1

Now, it's government go wild - faulting their d##k - showing everyone else that, they're not in the right mind.

u/Interesting-Doctor-4

Back in my day we could...

u/Ok_Distribution7377

Absolutely horrifying. Privacy is dead for anyone Down Under.

u/annie-ajuwocken-1984

Actually, just join a political party. These laws are surprisingly specific in politicians getting an exception.

u/Chineezy_

Center left is code for " We're basically conservatives, but we're willing to tolerate gay people."

u/KoolKat5000

It just shows grotesquely invasive the whole thing is. Frankly the lengths someone would have to go to obtain a blind ZKP should be more than sufficient. It's just pure evil over-reach.

u/wintermute_13

Every time I bring this up, I get massively down voted.

u/-_-Edit_Deleted-_-

Fake ID business bout to boom.

u/Swizzy88

UK is not far off doing the same.

u/Scotty_NZ

We need zero knowledge proofs for ID like never before.

u/Beautiful_Young_4316

What I get from reading the regulations and incoming rules is that we'll need to age and ID checks for specific "big" sites like Google, but if kids visit pornhub directly there's no checks.

u/wintermute_13

Thanks. But I don't think anyone can stop the US government from doing that. EFF is directly facilitating the hunting and intimidation of us, right now!

u/Bokbreath

The number of people who actually care about privacy is sadly small. witness the numbers who will gleefully publish their location, image and every waking thought in the attempt to be noticed

u/Marco-YES

They are not.

u/wintermute_13

Every time I bring this up, I get massively down voted.

u/skwyckl

It'll be dead for anybody in the next 5-10 years (look around at other nations: UK, US, Switzerland, Europe in general – with its chat scanning law, etc.). This is a global plan of authoritar

u/vriska1

If you live in Australia, Contact your Senators and Members about this: https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contacting_Senators_and_Members And the e safety commissioner: https://w

u/techbear72

With blackjack

u/Bokbreath

won't help. In the end you still need to present valid govt. issued ID at some point during the process. At that point any token granted to you can (and will) be paired with your ID, because

u/SnooAdvice8141

# MCIT has launched a new E-Payment Platform that allows residents and businesses in Qatar to pay for various government services online, It's secure, unified, and designed to simplify paymen

u/RavenWolf1

I don't have single picture on the internet. And I don't plan to do that in future either. Btw. How do they force ID tech to something like IRC?

u/skwyckl

>**Kiwi Farms**, formerly known as **CWCki Forums** ([/ˈkwɪki/](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English) [*KWIH-kee*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key

u/staphory

Guns, fire trucks, and prostitutes.

u/Bokbreath

The number of people who actually care about privacy is sadly small. witness the numbers who will gleefully publish their location, image and every waking thought in the attempt to be noticed

u/friendly-drone9352

This feels so dystopian! At what point can we stop using the "think about the kids" argument and making parents responsible for teaching their kids and setting boundaries.

u/No_Issue_7023

It can be done without linking the two, it’s just that the gov doesn’t want to do that because this is part of a broader plan to de-anonymise the internet piece by piece. Issuing a blind to

u/kawaiipikachu86

Labor's absolutely clueless, Liberals all too willing to help push Murdochs agenda.

u/kozyko

And hookers

u/ACertainMagicalSpade

The E safety Commissioner is the reason This is a thing. They are a control freak.

u/Interesting-Doctor-4

Back in my day we could...

u/LegateLaurie

Pornhub is likely to be blocked in Australia as it is in some US states. Pornhub knows there's no way to comply with these measures without putting users massively at risk (particularly if yo

u/Smooth_Influence_488

Awful but this would finally get me off the app.

u/W0gg0

What could go wrong when 3D models of everyone’s face is collected into a database for identification? /s

u/rambutanjuice

I downvoted you because I'm against government censorship, even when it's targeted at people that you don't like.

u/No_Issue_7023

if you go with something like the second method I suggested there is nothing to squirrel away, unless they build it in a way to do so. I was just saying it’s technically possible to build it

u/tigger994

Back when we had Napster and isps telling media companies to go jump.

u/wintermute_13

Thanks. But I don't think anyone can stop the US government from doing that. EFF is directly facilitating the hunting and intimidation of us, right now!

u/vriska1

Unlikely seeing the laws are falling apart. And many are fighting to stop this. support the EFF and FFTF. Link to there sites www.eff.org www.fightforthefuture.org Let not give up in ad

u/vriska1

Unlikely seeing the laws are falling apart. And many are fighting to stop this. support the EFF and FFTF. Link to there sites www.eff.org www.fightforthefuture.org Let not give up in ad

u/Laurikens

people talk about the internet being so free and open in the old days, we will look at today in the same light very soon

u/wintermute_13

The EFF supports Kiwifarms' "right" to dox trans people. Don't support them. EDIT: Great. Downvote me for defending my people's lives. Every last one of you is a transphobic piece of shi

u/rambutanjuice

I downvoted you because I'm against government censorship, even when it's targeted at people that you don't like.

u/LegateLaurie

Just barely

u/not_the_fox

Conservative as in not classically liberal not necessarily rightist.

u/vriska1

If you live in Australia, Contact your Senators and Members about this: https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contacting_Senators_and_Members And the e safety commissioner: https://w

u/No_Issue_7023

It can be done without linking the two, it’s just that the gov doesn’t want to do that because this is part of a broader plan to de-anonymise the internet piece by piece. Issuing a blind to

u/KoolKat5000

Purity politics gets you nowhere. EFF do good work.

u/i468DX2-66

I'll be telling me kids about this when they are older. What a time it was.

u/Friggin_Grease

And hookers

u/ErinDotEngineer

And so it spreads. We just saw this from the UK and now it is spreading to Australia. NZ would seem to be next. And again, nothing says freedom like the need to prove you are over 18, by p

u/jcunews1

Now, it's government go wild - faulting their d##k - showing everyone else that, they're not in the right mind.

u/LegateLaurie

Hardly any major party in any country opposes these laws. A lot of politicians don't understand or don't care about the risks, they don't like the internet and they want it restricted.

u/Kazer67

Already made

u/King-in-Council

We've know about mass data collection since 2004. Literally wholesale spitting/duplicating the internet at key sites, and sifting through the bulk. We never had as much privacy as people thin

u/TheRamblingPeacock

That’s my plan.

u/ACertainMagicalSpade

The E safety Commissioner is the reason This is a thing. They are a control freak.

u/frosted1030

Selling data is about to boom with personal IDs.

u/FactoryProgram

Let's make a 2nd internet!

u/Smooth_Influence_488

Awful but this would finally get me off the app.

u/Ciennas

Capitalists around the world care not for the political leanings of any government that they can get their tendrils into. A lot of them, all at once across the globe, are forcibly enacting a

u/Beautiful_Young_4316

What I get from reading the regulations and incoming rules is that we'll need to age and ID checks for specific "big" sites like Google, but if kids visit pornhub directly there's no checks.

u/No_Issue_7023

if you go with something like the second method I suggested there is nothing to squirrel away, unless they build it in a way to do so. I was just saying it’s technically possible to build it

u/Laurikens

people talk about the internet being so free and open in the old days, we will look at today in the same light very soon

u/The_All-Range_Atomic

Age gates could be the thing that that finally shatters the Meta/Tiktok monopoly. Teens won't just stop using social media. If their Instagram is blocked, they'll just go somewhere where th

u/vriska1

If you live in Australia, Contact your Senators and Members about this: https://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Contacting_Senators_and_Members And the e safety commissioner: https://w

u/Scotty_NZ

We need zero knowledge proofs for ID like never before.

u/SnooAdvice8141

# MCIT has launched a new E-Payment Platform that allows residents and businesses in Qatar to pay for various government services online, It's secure, unified, and designed to simplify paymen

u/skwyckl

>**Kiwi Farms**, formerly known as **CWCki Forums** ([/ˈkwɪki/](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English) [*KWIH-kee*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key

u/staphory

Guns, fire trucks, and prostitutes.

u/xavPa-64

Giant spiders?

u/frosted1030

Selling data is about to boom with personal IDs.

u/googleinvasive

Skynet must have your data.

u/KoolKat5000

It just shows grotesquely invasive the whole thing is. Frankly the lengths someone would have to go to obtain a blind ZKP should be more than sufficient. It's just pure evil over-reach.

u/skwyckl

It'll be dead for anybody in the next 5-10 years (look around at other nations: UK, US, Switzerland, Europe in general – with its chat scanning law, etc.). This is a global plan of authoritar

u/RavenWolf1

I don't have single picture on the internet. And I don't plan to do that in future either. Btw. How do they force ID tech to something like IRC?

u/nutcrackr

Looks like I'll not be using a lot of sites after December.

u/frosted1030

Selling data is about to boom with personal IDs.

u/Kazer67

Already made

u/W0gg0

What could go wrong when 3D models of everyone’s face is collected into a database for identification? /s

u/Bokbreath

>Issuing a blind token in a ZKP system would be one way. The gov wouldn’t know the token contents, they just sign that it’s valid at the time of verifying the ID. and squirrelli

u/TheRamblingPeacock

That’s my plan.

u/wintermute_13

Great way to minimize a site whose sole reason for existence is to harass my people into suicide. "Don't like" Fucking please. We're not children refusing our brocoli.

u/Ediwir

Mate, you’re not familiar with Mandatory Data Rentention and the Medicare Records. Privacy has been on the way out for a while - we barely slowed it down.

u/friendly-drone9352

This feels so dystopian! At what point can we stop using the "think about the kids" argument and making parents responsible for teaching their kids and setting boundaries.

u/Ciennas

Capitalists around the world care not for the political leanings of any government that they can get their tendrils into. A lot of them, all at once across the globe, are forcibly enacting a

u/rambutanjuice

I downvoted you because I'm against government censorship, even when it's targeted at people that you don't like.

u/i468DX2-66

I'll be telling me kids about this when they are older. What a time it was.

u/Curious_Document_956

We may have never had privacy. If the internet started with the military and satellites, when the public connected to it, yeah we may have had privacy from other users. However, the informati

u/googleinvasive

Skynet must have your data.

u/RiderLibertas

This has nothing to do with age verification and everything to do with losing your anonymity online.

u/Marco-YES

They are not.

u/nutcrackr

Looks like I'll not be using a lot of sites after December.

u/Laurikens

people talk about the internet being so free and open in the old days, we will look at today in the same light very soon

u/[deleted]

[deleted]

u/RavenWolf1

I don't have single picture on the internet. And I don't plan to do that in future either. Btw. How do they force ID tech to something like IRC?

u/Ediwir

Mate, you’re not familiar with Mandatory Data Rentention and the Medicare Records. Privacy has been on the way out for a while - we barely slowed it down.

u/kozyko

And hookers

u/KoolKat5000

Purity politics gets you nowhere. EFF do good work.

u/LegateLaurie

You have to trust the third party won't just steal your ID, which if they use human staff at any point in the chain is a possibility (bear in mind you'll have to give your ID to various diffe

u/Bokbreath

>Issuing a blind token in a ZKP system would be one way. The gov wouldn’t know the token contents, they just sign that it’s valid at the time of verifying the ID. and squirrelli

u/W0gg0

What could go wrong when 3D models of everyone’s face is collected into a database for identification? /s

u/i468DX2-66

I'll be telling me kids about this when they are older. What a time it was.

u/Swizzy88

UK is not far off doing the same.

u/King-in-Council

We've know about mass data collection since 2004. Literally wholesale spitting/duplicating the internet at key sites, and sifting through the bulk. We never had as much privacy as people thin

u/carlbandit

Shits already started on Reddit for the UK. Can’t even click on most peoples profiles now without ID as most are classed as NSFW Old.reddit still works for desktop to skip it but doesn’t hel

u/xavPa-64

Giant spiders?

u/Proud-Judgment5115

I miss the early days of the Internet; when it was like the Wild West.

u/Smooth_Influence_488

Awful but this would finally get me off the app.

u/googleinvasive

Skynet must have your data.

u/-_-Edit_Deleted-_-

Fake ID business bout to boom.

u/ACertainMagicalSpade

The E safety Commissioner is the reason This is a thing. They are a control freak.

u/KoolKat5000

It just shows grotesquely invasive the whole thing is. Frankly the lengths someone would have to go to obtain a blind ZKP should be more than sufficient. It's just pure evil over-reach.

u/carlbandit

Shits already started on Reddit for the UK. Can’t even click on most peoples profiles now without ID as most are classed as NSFW Old.reddit still works for desktop to skip it but doesn’t hel

u/Chineezy_

Center left is code for " We're basically conservatives, but we're willing to tolerate gay people."

u/Bokbreath

won't help. In the end you still need to present valid govt. issued ID at some point during the process. At that point any token granted to you can (and will) be paired with your ID, because

u/twizx3

Ngl privacy should take a backseat when the internet is actively dismantling entire societies

u/Bokbreath

won't help. In the end you still need to present valid govt. issued ID at some point during the process. At that point any token granted to you can (and will) be paired with your ID, because

u/skwyckl

>**Kiwi Farms**, formerly known as **CWCki Forums** ([/ˈkwɪki/](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English) [*KWIH-kee*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pronunciation_respelling_key

u/not_the_fox

There is no coincidence. Conservative politicians have been coordinating across the anglosphere for about a decade now to try and do this.

u/staphory

Guns, fire trucks, and prostitutes.

u/techbear72

With blackjack

u/[deleted]

[removed]

u/The_All-Range_Atomic

Age gates could be the thing that that finally shatters the Meta/Tiktok monopoly. Teens won't just stop using social media. If their Instagram is blocked, they'll just go somewhere where th

u/RealTimeWarfare

Do you really believe that?

u/vriska1

Unlikely seeing the laws are falling apart. And many are fighting to stop this. support the EFF and FFTF. Link to there sites www.eff.org www.fightforthefuture.org Let not give up in ad

u/ErinDotEngineer

And so it spreads. We just saw this from the UK and now it is spreading to Australia. NZ would seem to be next. And again, nothing says freedom like the need to prove you are over 18, by p

u/Bokbreath

>Issuing a blind token in a ZKP system would be one way. The gov wouldn’t know the token contents, they just sign that it’s valid at the time of verifying the ID. and squirrelli

u/King-in-Council

We've know about mass data collection since 2004. Literally wholesale spitting/duplicating the internet at key sites, and sifting through the bulk. We never had as much privacy as people thin

u/Ciennas

Capitalists around the world care not for the political leanings of any government that they can get their tendrils into. A lot of them, all at once across the globe, are forcibly enacting a

u/wintermute_13

The EFF supports Kiwifarms' "right" to dox trans people. Don't support them. EDIT: Great. Downvote me for defending my people's lives. Every last one of you is a transphobic piece of shi

u/Scotty_NZ

We need zero knowledge proofs for ID like never before.

u/Swizzy88

UK is not far off doing the same.

u/Bokbreath

The number of people who actually care about privacy is sadly small. witness the numbers who will gleefully publish their location, image and every waking thought in the attempt to be noticed

u/Ediwir

Mate, you’re not familiar with Mandatory Data Rentention and the Medicare Records. Privacy has been on the way out for a while - we barely slowed it down.

u/Ok_Distribution7377

Absolutely horrifying. Privacy is dead for anyone Down Under.

u/Proud-Judgment5115

I miss the early days of the Internet; when it was like the Wild West.

u/The_All-Range_Atomic

Age gates could be the thing that that finally shatters the Meta/Tiktok monopoly. Teens won't just stop using social media. If their Instagram is blocked, they'll just go somewhere where th

u/twizx3

Ngl privacy should take a backseat when the internet is actively dismantling entire societies

u/kawaiipikachu86

Labor's absolutely clueless, Liberals all too willing to help push Murdochs agenda.

u/IthinkIllthink

I’m thinking is also like fire crackers

u/Ok_Distribution7377

Absolutely horrifying. Privacy is dead for anyone Down Under.

u/LegateLaurie

You have to trust the third party won't just steal your ID, which if they use human staff at any point in the chain is a possibility (bear in mind you'll have to give your ID to various diffe

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