Platform Content Moderation Tightens: New Opportunities for Niche Distribution & Compliance

Published on 07/21/2025Trend Spotting / Early Adopter Signals

Valve's decision to remove 'Adult Only' games from Steam due to payment partner pressure signals a significant tightening of content moderation policies across major platforms. This trend impacts content creators, developers, and distributors. Commercial opportunities arise for: 1) Alternative, more permissive distribution platforms for 'adult' or boundary-pushing content. 2) Legal and compliance consulting for creators navigating evolving platform guidelines. 3) Specialized payment processing solutions willing to service industries deemed 'high risk' by mainstream providers. This shift creates a need for new infrastructure and services outside the established big tech ecosystems.

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Valve Pulls 'Adult Only' Games From Steam as It Tightens Rules to Appease Payment Partners - IGN

Posted by u/B0r3dGamer07/21/2025

Top Comments

u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/lllyyyynnn
so they caved. what's next? queer games?
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/Pale_Elevator8958
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/[deleted]
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/theFields97
$$$
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/zenidaz1995
Then ill just pirate the games? Fuck the banks
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/theFields97
$$$
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/RRT4444
If you know about how the whole CSGO lotto stuff went you know Steam/ Gaben isn’t the Saint you think he is with business and money deals. [Here](https://youtu.be/_8fU2QG-lV0?si=VB7AJ_8enfGXg
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/zenidaz1995
So they targeted games that had tags such as "rape", "incest" and "child abuse"? Im all for freedom, but why do those tags even exist for a video game storefront? I thought these people were
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/TwiKing
Now that payment processors are getting more bold, it's definitely more concerning. They have to consider their future as well however. If they start going after every LGBT, adult, or violent
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/Pale_Elevator8958
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/aardw0lf11
The only AO game I've purchased was Hatred and frankly I wouldn't mind if they did remove that one.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/theFields97
$$$
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/theFields97
$$$
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/theFields97
$$$
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/Pale_Elevator8958
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/DistributionRight261
I don't buy those games, but I feel like payment processors ha e too much power.
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/No-Astronomer-8256
Those games on steam impacted their partners more than the users somehow. I have never involuntarily seen those games.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Blacksad9999
We have credit unions in my area that don't use them for payment processing, etc. Might be an option in your area if you look into it.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/iHadou
Eventually the games will never get made because they know they won't get a return on investment. Then there will be nothing to download, it never came into existence.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/NationalisticMemes
Usdt, bitcoin, etc
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/No-Astronomer-8256
Those games on steam impacted their partners more than the users somehow. I have never involuntarily seen those games.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
GOG? they sell a lot of retro and older games from what I know. Yeah, I'm not sure where to draw the line. I don't mind adult games or adult themes in games myself because it's being offered
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Ok, so its some demented cocksucker from the UK government, that has never touched a game in its life, had an extreme snowflake moment?
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/TurnThatTVOFF
Well truly the problem is they own the gateways for payment processing so unless we find another way to work with banks ...
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/RunaMajo
Wouldn't want to loose out on that masterpiece. 
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/Cleffah
Rape and incest games are gone, and the people who enjoy those things are absolutely beside themselves about it and think their human rights are at stake because of it... adult themes are sti
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/Major_Issue_3781
That will only screw over the developers. That won't help whatsoever unfortunately
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/Major_Issue_3781
That will only screw over the developers. That won't help whatsoever unfortunately
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/TwiKing
Now that payment processors are getting more bold, it's definitely more concerning. They have to consider their future as well however. If they start going after every LGBT, adult, or violent
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/zenidaz1995
Then ill just pirate the games? Fuck the banks
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/3WayIntersection
Cringe
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/theFields97
$$$
u/theFields97
$$$
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/CelestialCeviche
As a game dev, I predict that this will lead to a lot of us self-censoring in the future. Whether you make NSFW or SFW games. The development process often takes years. And right now we don't
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/squormio
Not only safe, but localized and efficient. I don't play these types of games nor mind them, but I do think it is a little distracting to see "New Games" being flooded with low-effort NSFW Vi
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/JackReedTheSyndie
Boooo
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Pale_Elevator8958
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/No-Astronomer-8256
Those games on steam impacted their partners more than the users somehow. I have never involuntarily seen those games.
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/[deleted]
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/theFields97
$$$
u/theFields97
$$$
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/SunGazerSage
I read a few days ago that they’re exclusively removing incest-themed adult games from their store. I am not sure about other adult/porn games.
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/zenidaz1995
Then ill just pirate the games? Fuck the banks
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/DistributionRight261
I don't buy those games, but I feel like payment processors ha e too much power.
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/XiMaoJingPing
Crypto gets a lot of hate (Rightfully so for being a scam industry) but we really need a neutral payment processor that doesn't get influenced like this.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/Roymundo
It can be done via revolut, bank transfer, etc. Visa/mc are not the only payment options.
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/lambdaburst
Naturally the right wingers pushing this zealotry made a few ideological exceptions
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/MH-BiggestFan
But….how does that help fight back against the banks though?
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/LABoRATies
Far right loons think they have a right to control the marketplace on the basis of morality. This is a direct consequence of fascists dumbing down the populace and pushing regressive ideas. N
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/Blacksad9999
There's a bill in play still that bans payment processing companies from dictating what users can purchase with their own money/credit. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-b
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/[deleted]
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/Renegadeknight3
I agree with everything you’re saying except the affordability. Cryptocurrencies are just that: currency. There’s an exchange rate, you don’t buy one individual coin you exchange it into that
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/MugenHeadNinja
That was it's initial purpose, but it's pretty much been co-opted by the tech bros, dark web users and general illicit usage. Plus, it's not something that's practical for everyone and anyone
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/zenidaz1995
If they get removed from steam or other marketplaces and I can't purchase them anymore, then what does it matter? You got a better solution?
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/theFields97
$$$
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/Foxymaniac
another eu initiative could be a step, like stop killing games.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/magnuman307
Hopefully people see this before we're all fucked.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/terrerific
Yea id happily avoid these payment processors and was all ready to and in that moment learned just how much of a monopoly they have and how little say we have in the matter.
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/Immediate_Web4672
RIP Sexdivers
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/snkiz
Censorship set a dangerous precedent, I agree. But at the same time the headline is quite misleading. This is the first time I've read the details. The games in question aren't just sexually
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/BoopsTheSnoot_
This is how it starts. Censorship of steam will not stop. Some of removed games were absolutely trash, of course, but removing them is gonna have consequences. How long until all games on Ste
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/Salacious_Wisdom
Collective Shout are the ones we should be looking at. They're the Conservative group putting pressure on the payment processors.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/Roymundo
Steam is a private platform, not a public service utility. They can choose what games they want to sell or not. There is nothing stopping those porn game makers making the game available on t
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/Blacksad9999
Call/write your state representatives!!!! These types of people thrive if people like us don't do anything active about it.
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/reariri
And no violence, no guns or any weapons. Because isn't that more dangerous that adult content? And many fantasy games will be removed because they have demons in them, and they are bad. And s
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/JodouKast
Preaching to the choir; well aware of how the world works. The irony now is we're becoming slaves to AI.
u/theFields97
$$$
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/lil_chiakow
This will happen. The organization that escalated this issue to CEOs of payment processing companies literally masks itself as a feminist organization, while being run by fundie Christians.
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The people pushing for this explicitly hate queer people, so yeah.
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/B-BoyStance
Wag the finger with one hand while punching with the other. It's their entire strategy and people should wise up to it. They try to encroach on others' good faith by attacking/accusing wi
u/3rbi
This is a good thing, not sure why y'all are complaining.
u/mars1200
Crypto is literally for avoiding this exactly
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/AmbitiousReaction168
When we let ultra conservatives dictate our life. The very same people complaining about the cancel culture, DEI and the pussification of society are in good part responsible for the destruct
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.
u/deceitfulninja
So, [looking](https://steam-tracker.com/) at what has been delisted, it seems like Steam has pulled games with incest, non-consensual sex (including hypnosis), and sexual violence. 95% of the
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/DistributionRight261
I don't buy those games, but I feel like payment processors ha e too much power.
u/SuperUranus
I think what is more likely to happen is that porn just gets outlawed instead. We can already see it happening in certain western countries such as Sweden with tailored OnlyFans content now
u/MugenHeadNinja
We literally can't. This isn't an unprecedented event from Visa/Mastercard. (It's why strip clubs and weed dispensaries require cash payments and have ATM's inside, Visa/Mastercard won't do b
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/Rasples1998
Yes, I'm from the UK and I've seen people get hit with the Reddit age verification they're trialing. I haven't had it yet, but I'm expecting it.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/Jinshu_Daishi
The gamergaters would be happy to see the hatred of queer people, and not like the anti-porn stuff.
u/SeaBet5180
How many videogames are ultrafundies really buing that visa would care? Are they doing tithe by Mastercard or something?
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/ProfessionalSwitch45
That's bad, before steam people had to use unsafe websites to get a hold of these games. Steam offered a safe way for people to buy them.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/Arkride212
Bad riddance.
u/aphaits
If steam wallet can be used for payment and savings i'll make sure to screenshot my savings when it reached $69,420
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/RavenWolf1
I wouldn't be so sure about it. Worst is that this kind of thing will lead to self censorship which water down the stories. Game devs are afraid to add risky subjects to their games. We coul
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/The_White_Wolf04
Right, but how can we push back?
u/AcherusArchmage
Hopefully they can be relisted once the payment processors aren't allowed to bully businesses like this anymore.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Hell it was bad enough back in the Mass Effect era when developers were doing it with their *morality* mechanics. Now credit card companies want a say? I'm just waiting for them to have a pro
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/Knight_Of_Stars
Are these new game or are they still the same one that banned in the first wave? The article appears to be onky referencing the incest games that were first pulled, but the title is implying
u/The_Irish_Hello
How is that anything but an empty platitude? Am I just supposed to completely forgoe VISA? The only payment processor my bank uses?
u/horiami
Stop saying they are pressuring visa and mastercard They have no power over them Visa and mastercard are part of the problem and what should be the focus
u/Lawnmover_Man
Reddit is going that direction since at least 10 years now. It was a rather different place before.
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/JodouKast
Get a court to issue an injunction if they pull that card. It's not in Visa's interest to cut their own revenue stream either so I doubt that happens. It's sad that Epic seems to be the only
u/lllyyyynnn
so they caved. what's next? queer games?
u/LucidFir
Gabe created SteamOS in response to Windows Store threatening the existence of Steam. Let us join hands and pray that Gabe next creates a payment processor. How hard could it be?
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/Matt_Landers
The reason why credit card companies don't like porn games isn't ethics/morality. It's money. Porn games and porn in general are very common cancelled. People are horny, "buy" the product. D
u/shadowtheimpure
Except the fact that they'll have the same payment processing issues that a number of Japanese VN websites have been having of late.
u/KitsuneNovaXbox
Ethics? Morality?? I think you meant that they want to control you fully.
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
That gives me more hope. These groups alienating people who might otherwise be their biggest puritan allies, by going after guns too, seems like a pretty big political miscalculation.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/grimoireviper
>The games this would impact aren't for me For now. If no one pushes back they'll start coming after every game that doesn't follow their agenda.
u/[deleted]
Monero is objectively a valid currency. Its a spec of gold amongst a sea of shite. But its valid nontheless There's a reason the UK and other government hates it so much and thats mainly be
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/Blacksad9999
People do NOT like being told what they can and cannot do with their own hard earned money, regardless of which part of the political spectrum they fall on.
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/DEDE1973
Just checked, there is still 6985 games tagged as adult only. Are they pulling them all out of Steam or some of them?
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/SuperUranus
Newell is a billionaire like everyone else and don’t want to lose his revenue.
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/hopeless_case46
are they pushing people to pirate games?
u/pway_videogwames_uwu
I wish cryptocurrency had actually made a real attempt at being a currency and not a proto-NFT speculative asset.
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/GosuGian
This is bad. It's time for Steam crypto payments
u/Blacksad9999
Here is more information on the hard right religious groups behind this, as well as pressuring VISA and other payment processing companies to stop using adult websites. Their intent is to not
u/CosmicRorschach
That's what they want. They want subservient people who are just smart enough to work, but not that smart that they question what's going on. Why do you think they're gutting the shit out of
u/Sentmoraap
For EU: support SEPA wire transfer. When a game doesn't fit Mastercard/Visa censorship criteria, do not have them as payment options but still offer wire transfer.
u/awesomemc1
Mm..those far right church groups? Fuck them
u/kpiaum
Thanks, here in Brazil we now have Pix, and Steam and other stores are incorporating this method. We don't depend on credit card companies to buy anything. And it's hurting them (Visa/Master
u/jointkicker
Even things as cute as stardew valley contain violence and implied sex(you can have kids). No games are safe.
u/zenidaz1995
Look into credit unions, i dropped banks a long time ago. Credit unions are local financial institutions that specialize in the area they are in, very community driven too.
u/annie-ajuwocken-1984
Imagine what people from 10 years ago would say, the Gamergate years. But I guess Sarkeesian won in the end.
u/ConfectionClean4681
Fun fact the founder of the group not only defended cuties but also called for the release of a Korean immigrant in Australia after she was caught not only m######ing a boy but also filmed it
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/Best_Big_2184
Damn. You know deep down Steam isn't better than any other publisher or store front, but it's still a little shocking to see them pull bullshit like this.
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/Nights_Harvest
They are controlling what shop is allowed to sell, not what you can spend your money on. Not everything is for sale just because you have money.
u/JodouKast
To hell with this, since when did everyone become such a goddamn pussy? Every day it’s news of bending a knee to big corp or billionaires; where has the damn fight gone from people? Incredibl
u/G00b3rb0y
Watch politicians be in cahoots with payment processors on this
u/Dubious_Titan
the anime sex games showing up all over steam was kinda annoying.
u/Just_Ban_Me_Already
For real, ain't no way those two are letting a new competitor in.
u/magnuman307
The problem at its core is that people think that Liberty requires falling in line with one side or the other when the opposite is true.
u/theFields97
Don't buy from steam? Find a different way to buy games or to support the creators on other ways.
u/The_Witch_Queen
Ugh. They never leave furries alone
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Damn Steam has fallen...
u/GameMask
They're also pretty openly anti homosexuality among other things.
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/Bunnymancer
The fact that this is news worthy when a lot of porn sites haven't been able to use VISA for years is... Sad. Was nobody paying attention?
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Akuma-1
It's true that steam is full of trash due to lack of regulation, so normally I would be in favor of this, but what's "adult only" specially, because there's a lot of great adult games
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/terrerific
The games this would impact aren't for me but thats my decision and my decision alone. Im sick to death of corporations trying to impart their ethics and morality on me.
u/iHateR3dd1tXX
Oof, pretty fucking hard especially with the big two Visa and Mastercard standing in the way...its going to be borderline impossible.
u/Apprehensive_Shoe_86
This is bad for everyone. It's not just about porn games . the group pressuring payment services is fundamentally against sex and violence in general. You know what kind of games contain that
u/_Sharp_Law
Activists. 
u/Rasples1998
Report it to your local government. Only the government can control what you purchase; not payment providers. This is blatantly illegal. Don't word it as "I can't buy porn games" but say "pay
u/dee_c
It’s insane how they don’t see it being a problem because they are “supportive” of the thing being censored…but then wait until it’s something like this and you thought it was fine because it
u/crayuhg
Steam is just bowing to the demands of the cc companies. I would imagine they are losing a good amount of revenue from this.
u/DaRandomRhino
>I'm just waiting for them to have a problem with all the games with LGBT people in them next Might actually get people off their "Free Speech only covers what the government can't do to
u/Blacksad9999
Sure they do. So, here's how their little creepy scheme works: They hate **all** adult content and want **all** of it banned, but know that trying to outright ban all adult content won't fl
u/solidpeyo
Not that I care for those games, but if steam can just pull games like that just because of some conservative groups then steam just sucks now
u/AscendedViking7
For the love of God, this needs to pass.
u/zenidaz1995
This is actually a good take, some people work and earn some money and think they own the world.
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/Segagaga_
I mainly buy strategy games on PC so I am completely unaffected, but don't think I am not noticing. As an adult, I choose how to spend my money, no-one else. I would vote to regulate payment
u/nevalopo
Reminder that they did not only ban adult games. ALL games that have any developers from Russia is also banned. An example is Stalcraft:X which had tens of thousands of players.
u/ArmStoragePlus
At one point the same group tried to have Detroit: Become Human and GTA be pulled from Steam.
u/Practical-Aside890
Most don’t have the knowledge of how to fight back against stuff like this. It is true what they say knowledge is power. For example StopKillingGames. All it took is that one person Ross wit
u/Spartan_100
My man, [they have been](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/mastercard-inc/summary?id=D000022099) for a very long time
u/3WayIntersection
I mean, i hate this too, but what is steam supposed to do? Risk cutting off supportf from *the* card companies making payment much harder for everyone?
u/Liam-DGOL
Valve statement https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/07/valve-gets-pressured-by-payment-processors-with-a-new-rule-for-game-devs-and-various-adult-games-removed/
u/Username928351
Realistically Valve would go bankrupt very fast if Visa/MC close the money valves. Something like 80-85% of global electronic commerce goes through them.
u/AceOfCakez
I just checked and Sex with Hitler is still on sale on Steam.
u/RecLuse415
Fucking pussy shit bro…took the words right out my mouth.!I could Reddit going in the direction to unfortunately.
u/QuasimodoPredicted
Their ethics and morality? They have none. The CEOs must have been on the Epstein island.

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