Plug-and-Play Audio Standby Whine Filter for Electronics

Okay, I'll dive into the new user discussion and refine the product opportunity based on it.

Previous Analysis Recap: The user was trying to get rid of a subtle whine from a switching power supply in powered speakers during standby by adding a resistor. This pointed to a need for an elegant, safer, plug-and-play filter for power supply noise in audio equipment.

New User Discussion Analysis (Reddit ID: 1l2ur0m):

  • User's Goal: "Planning to attach one of these 50W heatsinked resistors to the output of a 16.8V switching power supply in some powered speakers I have to stop the subtle whine it makes while in standby mode."
  • Problem: Subtle whine from a switching power supply in powered speakers during standby. This is a common issue, often caused by the power supply operating in a low-power or burst mode to save energy, which can introduce audible frequencies.
  • User's Attempted Solution: Adding a resistor as a dummy load to the output of the power supply. This forces the power supply to draw more current, potentially taking it out of the noisy standby mode.
  • Implicit Needs/Pain Points:
    • The user wants a silent audio experience, especially when equipment is idle.
    • The current solution (adding a resistor) is a DIY hack. It requires sourcing components, understanding basic electronics, considering heat dissipation (hence the question about temperature), and implementing a potentially non-ideal or even unsafe modification.
    • Users want an easy fix for an annoying problem without becoming electronics experts.
    • One comment notes: "the switching power supply just isn't designed right" and mentions "pulse skipping," which is a common cause of such whines in standby.

Product Opportunity Identification:

The user's core problem isn't that they need a resistor; the resistor is their attempted solution to the problem of power supply whine in standby. The discussion confirms the previous analysis: there's a need for a more user-friendly, safe, and effective solution than manually adding resistors.

Specific Product Suggestion:

Product Name Idea: "Audio Standby Quietude Filter" or "SilentStandby Power Conditioner"

Product Description: A compact, inline DC power filter module specifically designed to eliminate or significantly reduce audible whine and noise generated by switching power supplies (SMPS) when connected audio equipment (like powered speakers, small amplifiers, or DACs) is in standby or low-power mode.

Key Features:

  1. Plug-and-Play: Designed to be inserted inline between the existing external power supply brick (e.g., 12V, 16.8V, 19V, 24V DC typical for powered speakers/mini-amps) and the audio device. It would use common DC barrel jack connectors (e.g., 5.5mm x 2.1mm or 5.5mm x 2.5mm, possibly with a set of common adapters).
  2. Targeted Filtering & Load Management: Internally, it would combine passive L-C filtering components to attenuate high-frequency noise and potentially a minimal, smart, or thermally managed resistive load to ensure the SMPS operates above its "noisy" low-load threshold. The load should be just enough to stabilize the SMPS without generating excessive heat or wasting significant power.
  3. Safe & Enclosed: Housed in a small, durable, non-conductive enclosure. No exposed components or user-serviceable parts.
  4. Optimized for Audio: Specifically tuned for frequencies known to cause audible whine from SMPS in audio applications.
  5. Minimal Power Draw: While adding a slight load, it should be designed to be efficient and not significantly increase overall power consumption compared to the problem it solves.
  6. Visual Indicator (Optional): A small LED to indicate it's correctly powered.

How it Differs from the User's Solution:

  • Integrated: Not just a resistor, but a proper filter circuit.
  • Safe: Professionally designed and enclosed.
  • Easy to Use: No electronics knowledge required.
  • Optimized: Designed specifically for this common audio problem, rather than a general-purpose component.
  • Aesthetically Pleasing: A small, neat box rather than a heatsinked resistor.

Expected Benefits & Revenue Potential:

  1. Solves a Common Annoyance: Many users of budget to mid-tier powered speakers and mini-amps experience this standby whine.
  2. Improved User Experience: Provides a silent standby experience, enhancing the perceived quality of the audio setup.
  3. Ease of Mind: Users don't have to resort to potentially risky DIY solutions.
  4. Market: Hobbyist audio enthusiasts, desktop audio users, home studio setups.
  5. Pricing Strategy:
    • Bill of Materials (BOM): Likely low ($3 - $7 for connectors, small PCB, passive components, enclosure).
    • Manufacturing & Assembly: $2 - $5.
    • Total Landed Cost: ~$5 - $12.
    • Retail Price: $19.99 - $34.99. This price point makes it an accessible fix.
  6. Revenue Potential:
    • If 10,000 units are sold at an average profit of $10-$20 per unit, this generates $100,000 - $200,000 in profit.
    • The market could be larger given the proliferation of inexpensive switching power supplies with consumer electronics.
    • Could be sold directly online (Amazon, specialist audio sites) or B2B to manufacturers of budget audio gear as an optional accessory.

Marketing Angles:

  • "Silence the Standby Whine!"
  • "Enjoy Pure Silence When Your Music Stops."
  • "The Easy Fix for Noisy Powered Speakers."

This product directly addresses the user's expressed need for a solution to power supply whine in standby mode, offering a safe, convenient, and effective alternative to their DIY approach.

Origin Reddit Post

r/askelectronics

How hot could this (50W rated) heatsinked resistor get while pulling 1-2W at room temperature?

Posted by u/Hentrox06/04/2025
Planning to attach one of these to the output of a 16.8V switching power supply in some powered speakers I have to stop the subtle whine it makes while in standby mode. I plan to mount it on

Top Comments

u/tlbs101
The Vishay spec sheet for RH50 resistors (like the one in the picture) are good to 20 watts without a heatsink. Unfortunately there was no thermal coefficients listed in that spec sheet (or
u/Cheap-Chapter-5920
I looked up a similar part and it says the 50W version will be ok at 20W in free air (no heatsink): [UAL Series Riedon™Aluminum Housed Power Wirewound Resistors by Bourns](https://www.bourns
u/msanangelo
I doubt it'd be noticeable. I managed to warm up a 100W resistor with music playing at the max a car radio could handle. was barely noticeable. that resistor likely absorbed maybe 5 or 6 watt
u/Cheap-Chapter-5920
I looked up a similar part and it says the 50W version will be ok at 20W in free air (no heatsink): [UAL Series Riedon™Aluminum Housed Power Wirewound Resistors by Bourns](https://www.bourns
u/Hentrox
>If the speaker load is \~8 ohms then 150 ohms in series means the resistor is drawing (150/158) = 95% of the power. Going to be destroyed without a heatsink if left in series with 2x 20W
u/Dewey_Oxberger
To calculate the temperature, you'll need all of the thermal specs. Looks for things with units of deg C/Watt. Then, look up "heat sink" calculation. That will take you through going from wat
u/Dewey_Oxberger
To calculate the temperature, you'll need all of the thermal specs. Looks for things with units of deg C/Watt. Then, look up "heat sink" calculation. That will take you through going from wat
u/pastro50
can't tell how hot it will get, but you won't have any issue with 1-2 watts. I use these at 15 watts or more with minimal board attachment. The get hot, but not dangerously hot.
u/Prestigious_Carpet29
This is the correct answer. Experience tells that 1-2 watts if mounted in free space, even on something not very thermally conductive, should be fine. They have quite a lot of thermal mass,
u/sinewavw
oh man i just took heat transfer this semester lol so here we go: we can approximate using the formula for convection heat transfer, Q = hA (T1-T2), where t1-t2 is temperature difference (s
u/kthompska
I have these type of 50w resistors but different value (3 ohm) - used as a current sense. I’ve run an amp through it in free air (3w) and didn’t notice a temperature change after some time -
u/fruhfy
No doubt, to safely apply power 11 times over the rating, you probably need liquid nitrogen, not water.
u/pastro50
can't tell how hot it will get, but you won't have any issue with 1-2 watts. I use these at 15 watts or more with minimal board attachment. The get hot, but not dangerously hot.
u/classicsat
Glass? Back in the day we used a cleaned out paint can. Also doubles as RF shielding, plus dissipates heat better than glass. Paint can lid is more reliable pressure relief too.
u/pastro50
usually the resistors are specced with a specific size heat sink.
u/thenewestnoise
Just so you know that 50 W rating only applies if it's bolted to a heatsink. https://preview.redd.it/ul319nzzlu4f1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=afbf8606670df0baaf6361564
u/Best-Cow-4962
Yes they do
u/Best-Cow-4962
Yes they do
u/scificis
Cold. I've used these same resistors for 5 watt bulbs and they don't even get warm. I bet at 50w they get to 100 degrees though
u/mckenzie_keith
One watt will be fine. Two watts will probably be fine. I am doing zero calculations. I am just noting that it is a big ass resistor. 75 mm long. If you wanted to dissipate 5 Watts I might su
u/Spud8000
[https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/heat-transfer-in-power-resistors-and-the-use-of-heat-sinks](https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/heat-transfer-in-power-resistors-and-the-use-of-heat-sinks
u/Owl_Perch_Farm
It can get hot enough to burn low melting point surfaces. (Don't touch them when the circuit is on)
u/mckenzie_keith
One watt will be fine. Two watts will probably be fine. I am doing zero calculations. I am just noting that it is a big ass resistor. 75 mm long. If you wanted to dissipate 5 Watts I might su
u/I-am-fun-at-parties
Where does the 11 times over come from?
u/kthompska
I have these type of 50w resistors but different value (3 ohm) - used as a current sense. I’ve run an amp through it in free air (3w) and didn’t notice a temperature change after some time -
u/PerniciousSnitOG
Electric heater elements are a safer choice and designed to be used immersed .
u/msanangelo
I doubt it'd be noticeable. I managed to warm up a 100W resistor with music playing at the max a car radio could handle. was barely noticeable. that resistor likely absorbed maybe 5 or 6 watt
u/DisastrousLab1309
Sounds exactly like it popcorned because of water getting in there through capillary action and then being heated. 
u/Spud8000
it is not "heat sinked" because it is not shown screwed onto a heat sink! are you just hanging it in mid air and Dissipating 2 watts thru it? https://preview.redd.it/l049xk20yt4f1.png?width
u/Stock-Plane7980
Roughly 105-201 degrees, depending on ambient temperature and assuming a one-hour run time.
u/fruhfy
48V/2R=24A 48V*24A=1152W 1152W/100W=11.52 or 11 with no decimal places
u/kthompska
Okay- couldn’t find any more 3 ohm, but I did have a few 0.25 ohm, 50w from a different project- same casing as your picture. I ran 3.44~3.48A through the resistor (I had to adjust as wires h
u/tlbs101
The Vishay spec sheet for RH50 resistors (like the one in the picture) are good to 20 watts without a heatsink. Unfortunately there was no thermal coefficients listed in that spec sheet (or
u/zimirken
I usually use motor oil. I have a mason jar with a bnc connector and a 50 ohm dummy load made of 8x 2 watt watt resistors submerged in oil. It handles 100 watts just fine for testing duration
u/ericje
> the switching power supply just isn't designed right It's probably doing [pulse skipping](https://www.analog.com/en/resources/technical-articles/when-pulses-are-omitted-in-switch-mode-p
u/Hentrox
Thanks
u/mariushm
Voltage = Current x Resistance Your voltage is 16.8v , if your resistor is 150 ohm then the current going through the resistor is Current = 16.8v / 150 = 0.112A and the power dissipated in
u/mraw2277
I work at an electronics manufacturer and one of the boards we build has a 25W/5R resistor. If the boards are not fully 100% dry after the wash, the resistors tend to explode violently during
u/confusiondiffusion
Ah good to know. I use this trick often and haven't had shrapnel yet. Guess I should be careful. 1/4W resistors can also take a completely irresponsible amount of power when submerged in
u/kthompska
Okay- couldn’t find any more 3 ohm, but I did have a few 0.25 ohm, 50w from a different project- same casing as your picture. I ran 3.44~3.48A through the resistor (I had to adjust as wires h
u/scificis
Cold. I've used these same resistors for 5 watt bulbs and they don't even get warm. I bet at 50w they get to 100 degrees though
u/exar0815
A Colleague once used one of the 100W/2R Models of those resistors submerged in Water as load for a 48V PSU to test load switching.  Experiment Result: Shrapnel and a very Wet Colleague. No
u/exar0815
We aren't completely sure what happened, but the metal casing was split open. So either it wasn't watertight and it flash-boiled some water that had seeped in, or it vaporized something insid
u/NewSchoolBoxer
2W and you're fine like other comment says. I was fine with 0.5W on a 5W chassis mount resistor. It was very warm but didn't burn me to touch. You could measure the thermal resistance (Kelvin
u/davidmlewisjr
There is a specification for max operating temperature, & it’s the designers job to size the mounting surface to stay below that value… It’s called design engineering.

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