Pool Tiles Falling Off? Understanding Causes and Repair Options

Content Idea & Rationale:

  • Identified Problem/Question Pattern: The post "Pool Tile & Copping Falling Off with Chunks of Concrete Attached" highlights a serious and concerning issue for pool owners. The fact that chunks of concrete are coming off along with the tiles suggests a problem that goes beyond just tile adhesion; it points to a failure in the underlying mortar bed or even the pool beam's surface layer. Comments mention potential causes like saltwater, curing, and sealing, as well as repair methods such as drilling and rebar, indicating a need for a comprehensive explanation.

  • Content Idea Title (Example): "Why Is My Pool Coping and Tile Falling Off WITH Concrete? Causes & Fixes"

  • Explanation of Content: This content would address the specific scenario where pool tiles and coping aren't just popping off, but are taking chunks of the underlying concrete structure (often the mortar bed or gunite beam surface) with them.

    • Potential Causes to Explore:
      • Improper Installation/Bonding Failure: This is a primary suspect. Issues like cold joints, lack of proper surface preparation before setting coping/tiles, incorrect mortar mix, and insufficient curing time for the pool shell or mortar bed can all lead to this problem.
      • Freeze-Thaw Cycles: Water seeping behind the coping/tiles, freezing, expanding, and pushing the materials off, potentially breaking off weakened concrete surfaces.
      • Water Intrusion & Degradation: Poor waterproofing, failed grout, or cracks allowing water to get behind the materials, leading to the degradation of the bond and the concrete substrate over time.
      • Aggressive Water Chemistry: While less likely to take concrete chunks directly, prolonged imbalance can weaken materials, making them more susceptible to other stresses. The saltwater pool comment is relevant here, as improperly managed saltwater can sometimes be more corrosive.
      • Structural Movement: Minor shifts in the pool shell or surrounding deck can put stress on the coping and tile layer.
    • Diagnostic Steps:
      • How to identify the extent of the problem (sounding for hollow spots beyond the visibly failed areas).
      • Inspecting the detached pieces to understand the failure point (e.g., did the mortar bed detach from the pool beam, or did the tile detach from the mortar bed?).
    • Repair Approaches (with a strong emphasis on when to call a professional):
      • Explaining why simple re-adhesion is often not enough for this type of failure.
      • The need for removing all loose material back to a sound substrate.
      • Proper surface preparation (cleaning, etching, bonding agents).
      • Considerations for rebuilding the mortar bed if necessary.
      • Discussing advanced techniques if applicable (like the rebar suggestion for larger-scale structural reinforcement, though this is very advanced for DIY).
      • Importance of proper materials (e.g., polymer-modified mortars) and waterproofing.
    • Prevention for the Future: Tips on proper pool maintenance, water chemistry, and inspecting/maintaining grout and seals.
  • Target Audience: Pool owners, homeowners experiencing significant and structural-seeming pool damage, and DIY enthusiasts who are trying to understand the severity of their pool issue and whether it's beyond a simple fix.

Origin Reddit Post

r/diy

Pool Tile & Coping Falling Off with Chunks of Concrete Attached

Posted by u/BeautifulGlad501406/03/2025
Cross posting on r/pools, r/DIY, r/HomeImprovement I’m repairing my inground pool and have a situation where sections of waterline tile and travertine coping are breaking off together, with

Top Comments

u/IncidentalApex
I am willing to bet that is a saltwater pool with a cell to convert to chlorine. I think the cement wasn't cured for long enough or sealed properly.
u/salesmunn
You shouldn't do this work with water in the pool. You should drain the pool and hire a pro.
u/Circuit_Guy
The problem is the angle of the break. Anything you do along just the joint is going to put the fix in shear stress. I would really worry about it becoming a safety hazard with the plan so
u/slipperyzoo
Shouldn't drain the pool... should almost never drain a pool, especially gunnite.
u/Booshur
Sorry to say, you need an experienced pool specialist to chime in here. Like others said I'm worried about the sheer stress. But adding rebar could damage the pool more if not done properly.
u/Delta_RC_2526
Just going to chime in as someone who got injured and lost consciousness from falling into a pool. The safety considerations are no joke... Things can go sideways (literally) so much faster
u/the_red_scimitar
An all too common problem. I had an A/C company do major work - they claimed they'd been in business for 30 years, but they were gone less than a year later -- apparently the business was new
u/Unicorn_puke
Yep. I'm comfortable repairing concrete but I wouldn't trust my skills at repairing the pool edge properly. I'd even argue that 1 piece came off but you can see the damage on the joining edge
u/Jul1en
If possible I advise you to empty the water because a lot of debris will fall there and pierce in the order not immediately of the big one, to avoid any risk I advise you a battery tool it wi
u/wastedpixls
My bet is that entire outer lip is going to fail on that outer curve. It looks like they didn't set the travertine tightly enough to keep water on top - that gap shows that water is getting
u/bob_pipe_layer
Don't use steel rebar! Find some composite rebar or something rated for saltwater exposure. I don't care how handy you are, you won't conetely encase the rebar in expoxy and it will rust whic
u/SelppinEvolI
Use an SDS rotary hammer drill. You can rent them at Home Depot or basically any tool rental place. The drills with a “hammer” setting they sell marked as “hammer drills” will take you an hou
u/KIDNEYST0NEZ
I use to work at a pool maintenance shop that also did chem checks. The issue is once the concrete is porous and degraded, water will simply find a way in and do its work with its oxidation o
u/IncidentalApex
I am not an expert. I believe it would continue, maybe it might slow it down. I would ask an expert for advice in the situation, though you might not like what they tell you. Pools attract th
u/Circuit_Guy
The problem is the angle of the break. Anything you do along just the joint is going to put the fix in shear stress. I would really worry about it becoming a safety hazard with the plan so
u/BeautifulGlad5014
Appreciate that! Anything to consider when drilling that close a pool, other than don’t hit water?
u/Guts-Out-Of-Order
Wear a respirator with the right cartridges to prevent inhaling concrete dust into your lungs, [Silicosis](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22622-silicosis) is no joke, and use
u/Substantial-Ant-4010
If you are going to remove the tile, you might want to consider drilling through both after bonding, and adding some rebar to give it more strength. You can fill the holes with the bonding ag
u/Guts-Out-Of-Order
Wear a respirator with the right cartridges to prevent inhaling concrete dust into your lungs, [Silicosis](https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22622-silicosis) is no joke, and use
u/Melkor15
Drill the base, put steal rods, apply the bonding agent. The rods will keep it in place even if the bonding fails. You can treat the rods with anti corrosion paint first. But seriously, I wo
u/BeautifulGlad5014
Yeah, you’re absolutely correct
u/BeautifulGlad5014
I looked into them and the business is shut down. The guy left a bunch of jobs unfinished and fled town….
u/IncidentalApex
I tell people that any fixes will not be permanent since the concrete will not stop degrading. Is the company that built the pool still in business? Is suing them a possiblity?
u/Jul1en
If possible I advise you to empty the water because a lot of debris will fall there and pierce in the order not immediately of the big one, to avoid any risk I advise you a battery tool it wi
u/jag-engr
You really only need one control method - not respirator and water. For drilling concrete, a vacuum collection method would probably be fine. Drilling doesn’t kick up nearly as much dust as
u/Ludnix
Would the concrete degradation continue if they switched to non-saltwater system or is the damage already done?
u/SelppinEvolI
Use an SDS rotary hammer drill. You can rent them at Home Depot or basically any tool rental place. The drills with a “hammer” setting they sell marked as “hammer drills” will take you an hou
u/IncidentalApex
I am willing to bet that is a saltwater pool with a cell to convert to chlorine. I think the cement wasn't cured for long enough or sealed properly.
u/BeautifulGlad5014
Appreciate that! Anything to consider when drilling that close a pool, other than don’t hit water?
u/Substantial-Ant-4010
If you are going to remove the tile, you might want to consider drilling through both after bonding, and adding some rebar to give it more strength. You can fill the holes with the bonding ag
u/BeautifulGlad5014
Yeah, you’re absolutely correct
u/IncidentalApex
Sorry to hear that.
u/Dammit_Chuck
The problem is the “curb” concrete below the tile is a separate concrete placement than the pool “wall” concrete. This is a very bad detail and eventually all your coping will fail. To proper

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