Rethinking Tech Careers: Addressing Disillusionment in Computer Science

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The computer science dream has become a nightmare

Posted by u/Logical_Welder3467•08/11/2025

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u/Fr00stee

the 20 year olds aren't even getting the job anyway because the "entry level" job requires 3-5 years of experience and the application requires you to document where you worked

u/roseofjuly

The worst people endlessly fail up. Everyone knows they are sociopathic sex pests, especially once they get to VP level, and yet these companies just pass them around. The worst part is that

u/machinegunke11y

Maybe electric, civil no

u/gunslinger_006

I expect it to be low pay and hard. I also expect it to be somewhat thankless. But it’s absolutely going to fit me better than tech.

u/gunslinger_006

I had a nervous breakdown too. Its not just you.

u/beargrillz

That has been my thought as well, the tax implications are far outweighing AI gains.

u/0xfreeman

Checks out, same experience through and through for me. I still have trust issues years after working at a FAANG, where my direct boss backstabbed me for a promo. He didn’t get it, then was

u/-EV3RYTHING-

I'm currently in uni for cs....

u/IGotDibsYo

Probably because the first trenches of all the interviewing processes and other bullshittery were created by tech bros out of uni, not by people who could build a business

u/Keeppforgetting

I will say as biological STEM major everyone was afraid of going into electrical engineering.

u/Loh_

I am reviewing a lot of code that have overcomplicate logic in a single file, but what scary me more is they are using the code without changing it at all, I could see the AI comment and the

u/LevelUpCoder

It’s been like this at least since i was in college (2017 onwards), if not longer. Companies want senior level talent for entry level pay and because of the instability of the field with its

u/Waypoint101

Any other engineering degree, civil/electrical/etc?

u/AussyLips

I was pursuing software development, and cried a lot over the stuff gunslinger mentioned with the algorithms you have to learn that don’t apply to the real world, knowing they didn’t apply to

u/projectkennedymonkey

You have to be pretty smart to do electrical engineering. It's probably the hardest engineering in terms of math. Source: degree in chemical and biological engineering which made me thankful

u/Easy_Soupee

Electrical Engineering has a professional association which is a kind of Union that enforces a living wage for its members and is not looked down on by society.

u/CommonerChaos

10000%, you bodied this shit. I especially loathe the Leetcode crap. And it's especially bad because even the small companies (that pay peanuts compared to FAANG) use that crap too. For larg

u/gunslinger_006

This sounds crazy familiar.

u/Ill_Following_7022

Avoid stack ranking like the fucking death march plague that it is. Tech management is a dead end. Management takes time away from actually learning new technology that is critical for mainta

u/roseofjuly

The worst people endlessly fail up. Everyone knows they are sociopathic sex pests, especially once they get to VP level, and yet these companies just pass them around. The worst part is that

u/nobodyisfreakinghome

# "On two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of co

u/gunslinger_006

Yes. I am going into social work. I am going to spend the rest of my life helpng humans be better humans.

u/gunslinger_006

I mean fuck. Where to even start. The entire interview process is beyond fucked. Even before ai got involved, it was a painful, disfunctional mess. Because there are no real certificat

u/Loh_

You are right, I am already seeing a lot of slop code because of AI in my job, this will increase a lot of cybersecurity problems. Besides, we see a lot of experts saying that AI already hit

u/BrideofClippy

I'm warning you now, PTSD is a very real job hazard depending on where you go. Social work often involves seeing people at their lowest or dealing with horrifying things because someone has t

u/Comedy86

"We're like family" is code for "expect to give up your evenings and weekends" and "we value authenticity" is as genuine as Apple's former slogan of "Think Different (like everyone else)". B

u/Sloth-TheSlothful

Im considering a switch, but idk to what. Literally every field i research says "dont join our profession"

u/RaveMittens

Section 174 of the US tax code: An overview Section 174 of the Internal Revenue Code addresses how businesses account for research and development (R&D) expenses. This section aims to inc

u/Hour_Paint8154

I left Comp Sci a few years back when I saw the writing in the wall. No regrets.

u/gunslinger_006

This sounds crazy familiar.

u/Excolo_Veritas

I'm about 16 in and I'm almost there too. I'm so burned out, and I absolutely hate morons above me trying to make technical decisions they don't understand. If I have another dipshit try and

u/GuntherPonz

My daughter graduates in December with a CS degree. Five years ago this was a good idea.

u/ZenibakoMooloo

They referenced them, so plagiarism it is not. But lazy, yes.

u/CommonerChaos

One thing that has significantly changed is the difficulty of *completing* a CS degree. When I was in college in 2009, CS was MUCH more difficult to pass, as there weren't as many resources a

u/totallynotnotnotreal

I know this isn't the point, but what is techcrunch doing basically retweeting the NYT piece, summarizing a few points and calling it journalism?

u/Dziadzios

It still is. Even with insane unemployment and difficulty in entering the field, once you do - the salaries are good.

u/Thad_Ivanov

I grew up with a dad that slowly got pushed out of the Auto part manufacture industry. It was mostly companies moving to mexico and automation. I went into software development not

u/ntwiles

A major criteria they’re likely using to mass deny your application is “does this application look AI generated?”.

u/Porkins_2

I’d read the book, to be honest. I had a nervous breakdown, essentially, in 2019, due to job stress and boredom, paradoxically (higher ed management). I went on a long vacation near the end o

u/nobodyisfreakinghome

# "On two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" ... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of co

u/Aceous

Honestly, probably a good time to be in school for it. I've seen this movie play out multiple times in my life. A field gets pronounced *dead* because of a bad labor market cycle. People stop

u/InfernalTest

pretty much thats most of media .... plagiarism

u/Hour_Paint8154

I left Comp Sci a few years back when I saw the writing in the wall. No regrets.

u/CheesypoofExtreme

>Lead Expert in Meta says that AGI is bullshit and scale up isn’t a solution. Got a link? I always need a good pick me up. I just have a hard time believing someone that important to M

u/futilediversion

I feel like this view of the world is highly slanted towards CS jobs in Silicon Valley tech. I work in aerospace on avionics and other real time systems and don’t see this type of behavior at

u/gunslinger_006

I just left the industry after a 20 year career, in absolute disgust of how dehumanizing this field is. Never again. Im done.

u/Sloth-TheSlothful

Im considering a switch, but idk to what. Literally every field i research says "dont join our profession"

u/I-have-extra-organs

I did almost 30 and now I am a luddite.

u/machinegunke11y

Maybe electric, civil no

u/CheesypoofExtreme

Preach. My exact experience, not even at a big tech company but at T-Fucking-Mobile. They wanted to be big tech SO fucking bad. I joined a decade ago and it was great for 3-4 years. Until l

u/Riaayo

"AI" is all bullshit anyway. This crap cannot actually replace the labor they swear it can. Shit is going to start imploding as companies, and the US government, lean more and more on this d

u/beargrillz

That has been my thought as well, the tax implications are far outweighing AI gains.

u/I-have-extra-organs

I did almost 30 and now I am a luddite.

u/Sloth-TheSlothful

Are you gonna switch careers? If so, to what?

u/gunslinger_006

All software work is fungible to those that arent in the trenches actually doing the work. Its insane.

u/timeaisis

Software Engineering is in high demand. Code jockeys are not. I’m afraid we’ve learned the wrong lessons.

u/Fairuse

You thought software engineering was soul breaking. I had civil engineer friend in the field for 8 years. He decided to switch up and teach kids in underprivileged districts. In 2 years it co

u/IrishSetterPuppy

The low end of the market seems to be dying but the high end is strong as ever. The problem is how do you get to the high end without that middle part?

u/I-have-extra-organs

I did almost 30 and now I am a luddite.

u/wp815p

Plant operations, instrumentation or electrician. 2 years of tech school and tops out around 55-65 dollars an hour on the gulf coast.

u/nanosam

Reality has become a nightmare. Actual nightmares are much better because you can at least wake up from them "TECH SUPPORT!!!! TECH SUUPPOOOORT!!!!!" - Vanilla Sky

u/Mjolnir2000

If you manage to help even one person, that's still more than you're likely to do in any corporate job.

u/shortarmed

The catch is that they are using AI to make that distinction, and AI sucks at identifying AI.

u/Sloth-TheSlothful

Are you gonna switch careers? If so, to what?

u/sir_sri

I suspect people a really underestimating the security risks. With the way a lot of work is done now, you build based on a collection of frameworks, apis etc. Sure, if one of those has a p

u/Waypoint101

Any other engineering degree, civil/electrical/etc?

u/roseofjuly

I used to work and volunteer as a college admissions counselor and coach for students - help them choose colleges, prepare for the SATs, write their essays, etc. (Worked for wealthy families,

u/abstractraj

Straight coding may have a downturn, but there’s cybersecurity and IT Systems kind of stuff still

u/arianeb

Programmers are getting Uber'd by greedy AI companies who are all operating at a loss. If companies had to pay the REAL cost of these AI bots, which will happen by the end of the decade, they

u/RaveMittens

Section 174 of the US tax code: An overview Section 174 of the Internal Revenue Code addresses how businesses account for research and development (R&D) expenses. This section aims to inc

u/degenerate_hedonbot

Nothing good lasts forever. Whenever something good happens, sociopaths at the top will find a way to enshittify it.

u/MizunoZui

It's a newsletter section, TC does news aggregation for notable stories form other outlets obviously

u/MyLovelyMan

I mourn the computer science dream, even though I'm not in CS. What other high paying careers are left? Finance (nepotism city), Law, and Med School? Super gatekept and tons of schooling

u/Deep90

Even if AI catches up the problem is that you need people solving the problems it can't. The seniors won't be around forever.

u/CheesypoofExtreme

Preach. My exact experience, not even at a big tech company but at T-Fucking-Mobile. They wanted to be big tech SO fucking bad. I joined a decade ago and it was great for 3-4 years. Until l

u/Mjolnir2000

If you manage to help even one person, that's still more than you're likely to do in any corporate job.

u/roseofjuly

I used to work and volunteer as a college admissions counselor and coach for students - help them choose colleges, prepare for the SATs, write their essays, etc. (Worked for wealthy families,

u/arianeb

Programmers are getting Uber'd by greedy AI companies who are all operating at a loss. If companies had to pay the REAL cost of these AI bots, which will happen by the end of the decade, they

u/Logical_Welder3467

Those that are 20 years in just hope to get 10 more years of income out of this racket and retire

u/-EV3RYTHING-

I'm currently in uni for cs....

u/Nyhzel

Someone else already pointed it out, but the field is an complete bloodbath. Your degree means nothing if you can't grind leetcode all day, on-top of doing a passion project. You're not allo

u/Stiggalicious

Can confirm, Electrical engineering generally pays well, but it’s also highly dependent on what subtype and where. California coast you can easily expect 150k+ for just a few years experience

u/Sixoul

AI is a tool and executives are using a shovel to replace a worker to dig a hole. They're not going to hit oil any time soon.

u/plantsavier

I agree with everything the OP said, and I will also point out that our current politicians are failing all science investments from clean energy, and environmental protection, biotechnology

u/antzcrashing

For anyone unemployed yes. In reality the jobs are still good jobs with high regard and security

u/gunslinger_006

I mean fuck. Where to even start. The entire interview process is beyond fucked. Even before ai got involved, it was a painful, disfunctional mess. Because there are no real certificat

u/exboi

I’m about to enter my senior year and I’m absolutely dreading the job market. Especially since I couldn’t even get an internship, and the work we’re given in class is so taxing and obtuse, I

u/el0_0le

You expect to be able to effectuate change... Is what we're saying. The lines are long, the funds are few, and the politics are turbulent and toxic. I don't doubt that there are good, funct

u/IllllIIIllllIl

I’ve been laid off twice in the past year from cybersecurity positions due to offshoring, and this whole industry’s in a bit of a bad place with that too. There at least seem to be a good num

u/Telemixus

Oh boy. You may be in for a rude awakening.

u/nanosam

Reality has become a nightmare. Actual nightmares are much better because you can at least wake up from them "TECH SUPPORT!!!! TECH SUUPPOOOORT!!!!!" - Vanilla Sky

u/gunslinger_006

I just left the industry after a 20 year career, in absolute disgust of how dehumanizing this field is. Never again. Im done.

u/futilediversion

I feel like this view of the world is highly slanted towards CS jobs in Silicon Valley tech. I work in aerospace on avionics and other real time systems and don’t see this type of behavior at

u/InfernalTest

pretty much thats most of media .... plagiarism

u/Stiggalicious

Can confirm, Electrical engineering generally pays well, but it’s also highly dependent on what subtype and where. California coast you can easily expect 150k+ for just a few years experience

u/gentheninja

Tech jobs will just get outsourced anyway. They are in weird space of being oversaturated while also being outsourced. AI is hardly the only factor with tech jobs being dead. In any case the

u/BrideofClippy

I'm warning you now, PTSD is a very real job hazard depending on where you go. Social work often involves seeing people at their lowest or dealing with horrifying things because someone has t

u/idostuf

You should write a book. Not enough people are calling out this bullshit. I just did a behavioural interview with a manager at a well known company bragging about how his entire company consi

u/Tasty_Curls

Yup, C-suite dbags will fire everyone they can because "ai will handle it" until their head dev retires, and no one knows how to fix the llm generated garbage code.

u/wp815p

Plant operations, instrumentation or electrician. 2 years of tech school and tops out around 55-65 dollars an hour on the gulf coast.

u/exboi

I’m about to enter my senior year and I’m absolutely dreading the job market. Especially since I couldn’t even get an internship, and the work we’re given in class is so taxing and obtuse, I

u/Porkins_2

I’d read the book, to be honest. I had a nervous breakdown, essentially, in 2019, due to job stress and boredom, paradoxically (higher ed management). I went on a long vacation near the end o

u/YaAbsolyutnoNikto

I mean, it was only normal. There’s nothing that distinct about a software engineering role. No life/death decisions, need to put your name on the line before authorities like doctors, lawy

u/2pt_perversion

I don't think it's going to remain that way for junior/mid-level unless demand catches up. High unemployment, high job competition, less need for high salaries. If AI doesn't catch up though

u/Aceous

Honestly, probably a good time to be in school for it. I've seen this movie play out multiple times in my life. A field gets pronounced *dead* because of a bad labor market cycle. People stop

u/SpinachKey9592

And it will be again in 3-10 Years. AI will not deliver what shareholders hope for.

u/dogcomplex

Then let us be rid of it. As competent AI programmers hit, lets make open source alternatives that simply destroy every profitable tech business and make every company into a public utility.

u/InfernalTest

pretty much thats most of media .... plagiarism

u/IrishSetterPuppy

The low end of the market seems to be dying but the high end is strong as ever. The problem is how do you get to the high end without that middle part?

u/totallynotnotnotreal

I know this isn't the point, but what is techcrunch doing basically retweeting the NYT piece, summarizing a few points and calling it journalism?

u/roseofjuly

Law school is only really high paying for a very, very small subset of students who can afford to go to a top law school (Top 10, and some from the top 25) and land a BigLaw job. The range fo

u/Keeppforgetting

I will say as biological STEM major everyone was afraid of going into electrical engineering.

u/gunslinger_006

I just left the industry after a 20 year career, in absolute disgust of how dehumanizing this field is. Never again. Im done.

u/DJBombba

American CEOs screwing over their own nationality for short term profits…

u/Slackluster

The journalism dream has become a nightmare...

u/SatanicPanicDisco

I've seen quite a few comments like this, what do people in your field generally move onto once they make their exit?

u/DJKGinHD

Tale as old as... well, as old as corporations.

u/hader_brugernavne

It can deliver insane results and still not live up to this amount of hype. I am seeing people consistently buy into the wildest hype and ignore every possible risk.

u/Moonskaraos

Everything you said is spot on. I’ve been in the industry for ten years, and I’m currently planning my exit. I simply can’t do this any more. I’m fucking burnt out to the core. Let AI take ov

u/IGotDibsYo

Probably because the first trenches of all the interviewing processes and other bullshittery were created by tech bros out of uni, not by people who could build a business

u/GuntherPonz

My daughter graduates in December with a CS degree. Five years ago this was a good idea.

u/Impossible_Bid6172

>Apparently you are supposed to code all fucking day, and then go home and work on a “passion project” all evening. I'm not in tech, but similar requirements for my field also. Man, I'm

u/roseofjuly

Law school is only really high paying for a very, very small subset of students who can afford to go to a top law school (Top 10, and some from the top 25) and land a BigLaw job. The range fo

u/gentheninja

Tech jobs will just get outsourced anyway. They are in weird space of being oversaturated while also being outsourced. AI is hardly the only factor with tech jobs being dead. In any case the

u/AussyLips

I was pursuing software development, and cried a lot over the stuff gunslinger mentioned with the algorithms you have to learn that don’t apply to the real world, knowing they didn’t apply to

u/Tasty_Curls

Yup, C-suite dbags will fire everyone they can because "ai will handle it" until their head dev retires, and no one knows how to fix the llm generated garbage code.

u/gunslinger_006

I had a nervous breakdown too. Its not just you.

u/YaAbsolyutnoNikto

I mean, it was only normal. There’s nothing that distinct about a software engineering role. No life/death decisions, need to put your name on the line before authorities like doctors, lawy

u/ntwiles

Regardless, I think the best takeaway for a person trying to get a job right now is to hand submit your applications to stand out.

u/el0_0le

Care to explain? Genuinely curious.

u/Riaayo

"AI" is all bullshit anyway. This crap cannot actually replace the labor they swear it can. Shit is going to start imploding as companies, and the US government, lean more and more on this d

u/IRequirePants

You are correct, but those pay less than computer science

u/CherryLongjump1989

The market will recover when interest rates and inflation go down, which is unlikely to happen until a few years after Trump leaves power. There is also an over-supply of software engineers

u/gunslinger_006

Yes. I am going into social work. I am going to spend the rest of my life helpng humans be better humans.

u/jimb0z_

Completely agree. Planning an exit myself after a 12 year career. Current job hired an Indian CTO who is slowly outsourcing the entire department. Don’t have the energy to start over. I feel

u/abstractraj

Straight coding may have a downturn, but there’s cybersecurity and IT Systems kind of stuff still

u/idostuf

You should write a book. Not enough people are calling out this bullshit. I just did a behavioural interview with a manager at a well known company bragging about how his entire company consi

u/Deep90

TBH they didn't even get into how *automated* the process is now and days. You upload your resume, fill out all the fields that essentially ask for details your resume already has,. That get

u/Slackluster

The journalism dream has become a nightmare...

u/dman928

I was in IT for 30 years. Got out a few years ago. I don't recommend it to anyone. Started on help desk, ended up as a CIO. Company I worked for closed their US operations and was out of

u/mistertickertape

Ironic that among the first careers paths that AI tools came for were the entry level computer science tech related ones. There's something almost poetic about it. There are plenty of other S

u/CommonerChaos

10000%, you bodied this shit. I especially loathe the Leetcode crap. And it's especially bad because even the small companies (that pay peanuts compared to FAANG) use that crap too. For larg

u/el0_0le

Care to explain? Genuinely curious.

u/Loh_

You are right, I am already seeing a lot of slop code because of AI in my job, this will increase a lot of cybersecurity problems. Besides, we see a lot of experts saying that AI already hit

u/hader_brugernavne

It can deliver insane results and still not live up to this amount of hype. I am seeing people consistently buy into the wildest hype and ignore every possible risk.

u/ComplexValue601

Companies started using AI to mass-deny applications. Applicants of all stripes—not just students—have had to adapt. It’s an arms race. Nobody’s going to read your cover letter or let you wal

u/Good_Air_7192

Ehh I don't even work in a computer science field and most of your points are similar in my field too.

u/mistertickertape

Ironic that among the first careers paths that AI tools came for were the entry level computer science tech related ones. There's something almost poetic about it. There are plenty of other S

u/2pt_perversion

I don't think it's going to remain that way for junior/mid-level unless demand catches up. High unemployment, high job competition, less need for high salaries. If AI doesn't catch up though

u/jmanclovis

It's all headlines. You really don't even need story's anymore most people don't get that far.

u/ntwiles

“Students are…using AI to mass-apply”. Well don’t do that, that’s part of the reason you’re not getting hired.

u/DJBombba

American CEOs screwing over their own nationality for short term profits…

u/projectkennedymonkey

You have to be pretty smart to do electrical engineering. It's probably the hardest engineering in terms of math. Source: degree in chemical and biological engineering which made me thankful

u/Loh_

I am reviewing a lot of code that have overcomplicate logic in a single file, but what scary me more is they are using the code without changing it at all, I could see the AI comment and the

u/Dziadzios

It still is. Even with insane unemployment and difficulty in entering the field, once you do - the salaries are good.

u/Moonskaraos

Everything you said is spot on. I’ve been in the industry for ten years, and I’m currently planning my exit. I simply can’t do this any more. I’m fucking burnt out to the core. Let AI take ov

u/gunslinger_006

All software work is fungible to those that arent in the trenches actually doing the work. Its insane.

u/peawee

All this AI-pumping neglects section 174 rollbacks

u/Comedy86

"We're like family" is code for "expect to give up your evenings and weekends" and "we value authenticity" is as genuine as Apple's former slogan of "Think Different (like everyone else)". B

u/Stickfigure91x

We need a damn union.

u/IRequirePants

You are correct, but those pay less than computer science

u/jimb0z_

Completely agree. Planning an exit myself after a 12 year career. Current job hired an Indian CTO who is slowly outsourcing the entire department. Don’t have the energy to start over. I feel

u/Telemixus

Oh boy. You may be in for a rude awakening.

u/CommonerChaos

One thing that has significantly changed is the difficulty of *completing* a CS degree. When I was in college in 2009, CS was MUCH more difficult to pass, as there weren't as many resources a

u/MyLovelyMan

I mourn the computer science dream, even though I'm not in CS. What other high paying careers are left? Finance (nepotism city), Law, and Med School? Super gatekept and tons of schooling

u/dogcomplex

Then let us be rid of it. As competent AI programmers hit, lets make open source alternatives that simply destroy every profitable tech business and make every company into a public utility.

u/CheesypoofExtreme

>Lead Expert in Meta says that AGI is bullshit and scale up isn’t a solution. Got a link? I always need a good pick me up. I just have a hard time believing someone that important to M

u/totallynotnotnotreal

I know this isn't the point, but what is techcrunch doing basically retweeting the NYT piece, summarizing a few points and calling it journalism?

u/mistertickertape

Ironic that among the first careers paths that AI tools came for were the entry level computer science tech related ones. There's something almost poetic about it. There are plenty of other S

u/el0_0le

Care to explain? Genuinely curious.

u/Thad_Ivanov

I grew up with a dad that slowly got pushed out of the Auto part manufacture industry. It was mostly companies moving to mexico and automation. I went into software development not

u/Stickfigure91x

We need a damn union.

u/sir_sri

I suspect people a really underestimating the security risks. With the way a lot of work is done now, you build based on a collection of frameworks, apis etc. Sure, if one of those has a p

u/Excolo_Veritas

I'm about 16 in and I'm almost there too. I'm so burned out, and I absolutely hate morons above me trying to make technical decisions they don't understand. If I have another dipshit try and

u/Nyhzel

Someone else already pointed it out, but the field is an complete bloodbath. Your degree means nothing if you can't grind leetcode all day, on-top of doing a passion project. You're not allo

u/degenerate_hedonbot

Nothing good lasts forever. Whenever something good happens, sociopaths at the top will find a way to enshittify it.

u/shortarmed

They are going to hand it back to you and tell you to apply online.

u/Ill_Following_7022

Avoid stack ranking like the fucking death march plague that it is. Tech management is a dead end. Management takes time away from actually learning new technology that is critical for mainta

u/MyLovelyMan

I mourn the computer science dream, even though I'm not in CS. What other high paying careers are left? Finance (nepotism city), Law, and Med School? Super gatekept and tons of schooling

u/Impossible_Bid6172

>Apparently you are supposed to code all fucking day, and then go home and work on a “passion project” all evening. I'm not in tech, but similar requirements for my field also. Man, I'm

u/CriticG7tv

Damn, glad I decided against the Comp Sci degree and got my B.S. in History. Whew, dodged that bullet.

u/plartoo

You are right about the other high paying careers being gate-kept well. In contrast, programming has a low barrier of entry and the ability spectrum not just wide, but has multi-dimensional (

u/LevelUpCoder

It’s been like this at least since i was in college (2017 onwards), if not longer. Companies want senior level talent for entry level pay and because of the instability of the field with its

u/plantsavier

I agree with everything the OP said, and I will also point out that our current politicians are failing all science investments from clean energy, and environmental protection, biotechnology

u/BootyMcStuffins

That doesn’t compare to CS… No college degree, not working at a FAANG or anywhere near the Bay Area, TC is $350k ($168/hr)

u/MizunoZui

It's a newsletter section, TC does news aggregation for notable stories form other outlets obviously

u/Sixoul

AI is a tool and executives are using a shovel to replace a worker to dig a hole. They're not going to hit oil any time soon.

u/timeaisis

Software Engineering is in high demand. Code jockeys are not. I’m afraid we’ve learned the wrong lessons.

u/SatanicPanicDisco

I've seen quite a few comments like this, what do people in your field generally move onto once they make their exit?

u/ntwiles

…that’s not what I meant by hand submit lol.

u/Fairuse

You thought software engineering was soul breaking. I had civil engineer friend in the field for 8 years. He decided to switch up and teach kids in underprivileged districts. In 2 years it co

u/ZenibakoMooloo

They referenced them, so plagiarism it is not. But lazy, yes.

u/Fr00stee

the 20 year olds aren't even getting the job anyway because the "entry level" job requires 3-5 years of experience and the application requires you to document where you worked

u/BootyMcStuffins

That doesn’t compare to CS… No college degree, not working at a FAANG or anywhere near the Bay Area, TC is $350k ($168/hr)

u/antzcrashing

For anyone unemployed yes. In reality the jobs are still good jobs with high regard and security

u/IllllIIIllllIl

I’ve been laid off twice in the past year from cybersecurity positions due to offshoring, and this whole industry’s in a bit of a bad place with that too. There at least seem to be a good num

u/Excolo_Veritas

I'm about 16 in and I'm almost there too. I'm so burned out, and I absolutely hate morons above me trying to make technical decisions they don't understand. If I have another dipshit try and

u/peawee

All this AI-pumping neglects section 174 rollbacks

u/sir_sri

Comp sci will be back in a year or two. Either ai will catastrophically fail, and you will need a million cs grads to pick up the mess, or AI will make many areas of software development so

u/FruitOrchards

>He decided to switch up and teach kids in underprivileged districts. In 2 years it completely broke him. He basically lost all faith in humanity and himself. Yeah.. that'll do it.

u/dman928

I was in IT for 30 years. Got out a few years ago. I don't recommend it to anyone. Started on help desk, ended up as a CIO. Company I worked for closed their US operations and was out of

u/gunslinger_006

I expect it to be low pay and hard. I also expect it to be somewhat thankless. But it’s absolutely going to fit me better than tech.

u/SpinachKey9592

And it will be again in 3-10 Years. AI will not deliver what shareholders hope for.

u/el0_0le

You expect to be able to effectuate change... Is what we're saying. The lines are long, the funds are few, and the politics are turbulent and toxic. I don't doubt that there are good, funct

u/Easy_Soupee

Electrical Engineering has a professional association which is a kind of Union that enforces a living wage for its members and is not looked down on by society.

u/roseofjuly

But applicants to those jobs also aren't expecting to make well into the $100K range at age 22 with very little experience. I also contend that the tech jobs aren't going away; they are just

u/CherryLongjump1989

The market will recover when interest rates and inflation go down, which is unlikely to happen until a few years after Trump leaves power. There is also an over-supply of software engineers

u/roseofjuly

But applicants to those jobs also aren't expecting to make well into the $100K range at age 22 with very little experience. I also contend that the tech jobs aren't going away; they are just

u/Good_Air_7192

Ehh I don't even work in a computer science field and most of your points are similar in my field too.

u/FruitOrchards

>He decided to switch up and teach kids in underprivileged districts. In 2 years it completely broke him. He basically lost all faith in humanity and himself. Yeah.. that'll do it.

u/0xfreeman

Checks out, same experience through and through for me. I still have trust issues years after working at a FAANG, where my direct boss backstabbed me for a promo. He didn’t get it, then was

u/Deep90

TBH they didn't even get into how *automated* the process is now and days. You upload your resume, fill out all the fields that essentially ask for details your resume already has,. That get

u/jmanclovis

It's all headlines. You really don't even need story's anymore most people don't get that far.

u/sir_sri

Comp sci will be back in a year or two. Either ai will catastrophically fail, and you will need a million cs grads to pick up the mess, or AI will make many areas of software development so

u/CriticG7tv

Damn, glad I decided against the Comp Sci degree and got my B.S. in History. Whew, dodged that bullet.

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