Specialized Workholding Fixture for CNC Lathe Facing and Centering
Okay, I've looked into the user's request based on the provided Reddit post information.
Product Opportunity Analysis:
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User Need Identification:
- Problem: The user is looking for a way to securely hold a workpiece for facing and center drilling operations on a CNC machine. Specifically, the workpiece holding mechanism (like a chuck) needs to stay stationary while the tool (drill or facing tool) operates.
- Context: The assignment is for a CNC lathe, but the operation described (stationary workpiece, live tool) is more like what you'd see on a horizontal mill or a dedicated facing/centering machine. The user mentions it could be a "device for the CNC or a separate machine."
- Constraint: Standard solutions like a 4-jaw chuck, which usually rotate the workpiece on a lathe, won't work because the chuck needs to be fixed when the drill operates.
- Implied Need: A specialized fixture or accessory that can be mounted on a CNC machine (likely a lathe, given the context, but adaptable) to perform this task without the workpiece rotating.
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Market Gap:
- The user notes that "old machines that did this" (dedicated facing and centering machines) exist, but information is scarce, suggesting they are not readily available, modern, or easily integrated.
- Standard lathe operations involve a rotating workpiece, while standard milling operations have a stationary workpiece. The user is trying to solve this within a "CNC lathe" design context or as an accessory.
- This points to a niche requirement for machine shops that need to perform facing and centering efficiently but may not want or have a dedicated, potentially outdated or expensive, machine for it.
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Product Suggestion:
- Product Name: "Precision Stationary Workpiece Fixture for Facing & Centering" or "Self-Centering Facing and Drilling Fixture for Lathes/Mills."
- Product Type: B2B Hardware (Machine Tool Accessory).
- Description: A robust, precision-engineered fixture designed to be mounted on the bed or cross-slide of a CNC lathe (or potentially a CNC mill table).
- It would feature a self-centering clamping mechanism (e.g., a 3-jaw or 4-jaw scroll chuck design, but one that is locked and does not rotate with the machine spindle) or an adjustable V-block system to securely hold cylindrical or prismatic workpieces.
- The fixture ensures the workpiece remains perfectly stationary and aligned with the machine's Z-axis (for a lathe, where the tool would be in the main spindle) or X/Y plane for a tool approaching from the spindle (for a mill-like operation on a lathe).
- It would allow a rotating tool (held in the lathe's main spindle or a live tool turret, or a mill's spindle) to perform facing operations on the end of the workpiece and drill a center hole.
- Material: Hardened steel for durability and precision.
- Mounting: T-slot nuts, dedicated mounting plates for common lathe beds/cross-slides.
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Key Features & Value Proposition:
- Stationary Clamping: Solves the core problem of the workpiece needing to be fixed.
- Self-Centering (or highly adjustable): Reduces setup time and ensures accuracy.
- Versatility: Allows lathes to perform operations typically requiring a mill or specialized machine.
- Cost-Effective: Cheaper than a dedicated facing and centering machine.
- Space-Saving: Uses existing CNC machine capabilities.
- Improved Workflow: Streamlines the process for preparing stock for further machining operations.
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Target Market:
- Small to medium-sized machine shops.
- Prototyping labs.
- Educational institutions with CNC machining programs.
- Job shops that require flexibility and perform diverse operations.
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Expected Benefits (Revenue Potential - Highly Speculative):
- This is a niche, specialized tooling item.
- Unit Price: Depending on size, precision, and features, could range from $500 - $2500.
- Market Size: Difficult to estimate without further research, but let's assume a modest target of capturing a small fraction of machine shops. If there are tens of thousands of machine shops in a target region (e.g., USA), even capturing 0.1% to 0.5% could be significant.
- Potential Revenue:
- If 100 units are sold at an average of $1000/unit = $100,000 revenue.
- If 500 units are sold at an average of $1000/unit = $500,000 revenue.
- Profit Margin: Specialized tooling can have good margins (e.g., 30-50%) after R&D and manufacturing setup, assuming efficient production.
- Additional Revenue: Potential for different sizes, custom mounting adapters, or replacement parts.
This product addresses a clearly stated, unsolved technical challenge with a tangible hardware solution for a professional B2B market. It enhances the capability of existing expensive machinery.
Origin Reddit Post
r/machinists
I have a problem in the design for clamping the workpiece for this machine
Posted by u/Successful-Hand8947•06/15/2025
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The problem I'm running into is how to hold the workpiece. I
Top Comments
u/Trivi_13
They used to make facing and centering machines, dedicated equipment.
I bet they still make them.
That being said, a 4-jaw chuck is adjustable.
u/dblmca
You are describing a horizontal mill. Where the work piece is stationary and the tool is live. The assignment calls for a CNC lathe.
I think you need to go back to first principals and re
u/Successful-Hand8947
it's asking for either a device for the CNC or a separate machine to do the work
u/Successful-Hand8947
Yeah, they told me now that there are some old machines that did this, but since they're so old, I can barely find any information. The chuck issue is that it needs to be fixed when the drill
u/Effective_Motor_4398
You know what they say. Figure it out.